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On 1/7/2019 at 0:16 PM, MacThorstenson said:

You're right. But I just had an epiphany, Kelsier held the shard of preservation for a while, and thus would know what his godmetal did, no? I think that he wouldn't know about the rest of the metals instinctively, but he would know about what his metal did.

Kelsier held the shard of Preservation not Ruin. Harmony is the only one with the perfect knowledge of hemalurgy and looks like he's not sharing ( he even lies or keep information to himself like how it doesn't seem possible for kandra to gain allomantic abilities before bleeder did show she could).

Kelsier might know things but remember previous vessels or slivers as people might call it don't remember everything they learned as a vessel (Vin and Rashek are the proof). And Kelsier didn't even have the right shard who would contain all knowledge of hemalurgy.

Yeah Rashek and Marsh might have more intimate knowledge with Hemalurgy but even both wasn't willing to share.

I like incomprehensible powerful and completely out of your league beings so Endowment for me.

I don't think anybody mentioned Marasi. She is actually the most dateable girl in cosmere. She has a strong will, intelligent, isn't too disconnected with the world and definitely is fairly normal. If she wasn't a fictional character she'd be really dateable girl.

Great podcast!

Also really good justification on the theory why Endowment brings back dead babies to life (in which she sees that they do something helpful in the future but lacks the opportunity so she brings them back). I have never thought of it that way and i think that's my headcannon for it now.

Oh Endowment is quite interesting. 

15 hours ago, plowshares said:

Perhaps the Lord Ruler's children are the reason for the Terris breeding program? Maybe as one of them grew up he realized the danger to himself?

Wasn't the terris breeding program went two-ways ? Like the secret breeding program for feruchemist (which Tindwyl became part of) and the normal one from the Lord Ruler to actually do the opposite of what Tindwyl been part of.

Hey WeiryWriter i got the critrole reference as well

Lutha is likely Lord Ruler's daughter or lover. Speaking of Lord Ruler's children i always found it intriguing that he still has descendants in the modern Scadrial. Like how did that happen ? Who ? Did he have harems ? Or did he spare his children or lost track of them ?

I'd love if Vax is gonna play a role on cosmere eventually and it being initially Ruin-dominated place(or probably him leaving power there too)

Also i would really interested if Sanderson wrote Cosmic horrors even if it was not cosmere and just SF.

1 hour ago, ccstat said:

I'm shocked that nobody on the podcast or in the comments has mentioned Amaram yet. The way his character was handled in Oathbringer was awful. On a scale from off-putting to rage-inducing, his arc was a solid "Why even have motivations if they are going to totally reverse off-screen?" with an added dose of "Sure, let's melt the brain of this personally meaningful antagonist, then remove him from the series with an unfulfilling fight scene." 

Graaah! 

For the record, I was not on the Amaram hate train prior to OB. I liked his character and wanted too see where he went. Apparently he went to become the level 1 mini-boss and retconned his own life story in the process.

Didn't hate Amaram either but didn't like his turn-to-Odium development. I was liking where he was going even if he wasn't gonna be an ally really just this really hypocritical or tragic persona. 

Idk about others but this was kinda mild-issue for me since i didn't really care about Amaram for the most part and it showed us a fight sequence so i was "whatever" by it. I had more issues about other parts of Cosmere(mostly mistborn)

On 7/21/2018 at 0:52 AM, Krios said:

I always got the impression, that Kelsier couldn't pass to the beyond, because he took a dive in Preservations powers. Isn't there even a line, how he had given up Mare by doing this?

No it wasn't that. Leras, Ati, Vin and Rashek held a shard but all passed the beyond. The catch is that they could stay but anybody could leave if they let the beyond take them.

I'm one of the minority who believes that Kelsier's revival was a really bad idea.

 It undermined so much of the good stuff from the Mistborn Trilogy that i thought made that trilogy really work(aside from the tight culmination to the ending of course ). Apart from his deus ex machina ruining the meaning of one of Sazed's epigraphs that was what encompassed the theme of original trilogy

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	I speak of us as "we." The group. Those of us who were trying to discover and defeat Ruin. Perhaps my thoughts are now tainted, but I like to look back and see the sum of what we were doing as a single, united assault, though we were all involved in different processes and plans.

there was so many events in the trilogy that was represented as fighting against the bitter end which was Spooks/Gorodels/Marsh story and contribution in beating Ruin. Kelsier playing behind the scenes and having a hand on those undermined the climax of those characters that was supposed to be their own contribution on the culmination of all things. A grand effort in finally beating Ruin.

It ruined the meaning of "passing the baton" which has been a theme of Mistborn. Which was supposed to be what Kelsier and Rashek was mostly about but Kelsier ruined the meaning of that and Rashek didn't.

I loved mistborn as a culmination of all things that lead to the most important event(the ascension of the Hero of Ages and the caretaker that the people who suffered so much finally deserved.  Sazed) but not as a bloody Kelsier show. One man shows are fine but undermining other characters efforts if it was what made the story special is just terrible. 

His revival most of all cheapened the meaning of the single most climactic event in the TFE that was the circumstances of his finality(or should've been). It was one the best things i've read in all fiction until it was not because of Secret History. Still a powerful execution but no longer the best thing.

Not all characters have to be "greater scope characters". We already have a conspiracy(pulling strings from behind or playing the background) character which is Hoid. We also have characters who made sense and wasn't detrimental on them going to the greater scale story which was Marsh, the kandra and Sazed(especially him.. the entire trilogy was his setup for the greater game).

Not Kelsier, he's supposed to stay dead.

I know it's supposed to fill the missing link between the time of Leras death and Vin's ascension but it could've been setup better or 

Well that's my absolute #1 complain RANT OVER