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Szeth. The whole Szeth thing. Less Shallan, she makes my teeth hurt. And please let Kaladin do something other than brood. I'd also like to see a Fused POV. 

Unless it's in text or a WOB, it's totally Tin Foil Hat territory lol. I'm definitely not new to this lol. I rarely post, but I've been Cosmere aware for over a decade. I see a lot of theory, and head canon pushed as fact here. I'm all for speculation, but lets keep it at that. As for the modern Radiants, they came pretty close. Kaladin couldn't fight the Parsh after he saw they were just normal folks. Shallan doesn't even know who she is between one thought and the next, so to me her opinion is a non factor. The Dustbringer is, and always has been Mr. T's camp. If it hadn't been for Cultivation, Dalinar would've been turned. Lift can't even count past 10, and only wants to eat. Renarin, we're not even going there. And Jasnah only cares about the truth, as long as it's true, she really doesn't care. They didn't have THOUSANDS of year of being told they were in the right. That's like if Christans discovered that Muslims had the true religion, it would hit the fan. It seems like to me, some folks just can't accept that the Recreance is what it is, and they feel the need to make more of it. Just my opinion.

From my understanding from reading OB, The Recreance occurred because they found out that the Parsh were the original inhabitants of Roshar, AND the discovery that they had already destroyed a planet through Surgebinding. This was the secret that Taravangian was keeping to use against the Coalition as well. It wasn't one or the other that caused it, it was both. Anything else is Tin Foil Hat territory.

22 hours ago, Strifelover said:

Speaking of the Heralds at the feast, I've always found it a little weird when Kalak mentions how Ash " [is] getting worse," the voice continued. "We weren't supposed to get worse. Am I getting worse? I think I feel worse."

Now it makes sense that they're messed up, given everything they've been through. But you would think that with their abandoning of the Oathpact  to live in obscurity thousands of years ago (at least more than 4,500), that if they were getting worse it would've been clear long ago. If it was a slow decline, how gradual would it need to be to only be noticeable now? If it was more recent, what changed?

Makes me think that perhaps recent events, Taln cracking and breaking, Odium manifesting his big plan, etc could be having an effect on them.

An insane individual rarely if ever realizes that they are insane. So I personally could see a person slowly slowly sliding into madness and never even realizing it. Over time the madness would become normal to them.

I am so tired of, and care extremely little about Moash. No more Moash...

I personally think he took it to Urithiru. He said it was somewhere safe. That's the safest place he could think of, because no one else could get there

The way that I understood it, the reason it interferes is the Stormlight is the gems power the Plate. I'm thinking that it's like the Blades, that gemstones weren't needed to power the originals. And since Szeth needs more Stormlight than normal, he'd probably suck out the light powering the Plate. That was just my understanding of the situation. 

You make a lot of sense, for a lighteyes..... Lol. I agree and also have wondered how Mr. T knew about the storm. The dates for the storm, or most of the other things that he knew, but would have absolutely no knowledge of (like the Unmade). 

That is very possible. What with that expanded thought capacity and all. In addition although I could be very wrong, no other epigraph has been pinned down as talking about Hoid. And of course he should have one. The Letters are a completely different matter, so I'm not counting those 

It's the "I glimpse at his implications, and the world opens to me. I shy back." That makes me think it's Hoid. Zahel's only been 2 places (that we know of) , so I don't think that qualifies him to be a "wanderer ".

But who is the wanderer , the wild piece, the one who makes no sense? I glimpse at his implications, and the world opens to me. I shy back. Impossible. Is it? —From the Diagram, West Wall Psalm of Wonders: paragraph 8 (Note by Adrotagia: Could this refer to Mraize?)

I'm thinking this is speaking of Hoid. Haven't seen any discussion on this particular one, so I thought I'd start one. 

If I'm not mistaken, Ivory is also a type of Cryptic. And to me personally, he doesn't seem like the type to really be a Lightweaver, but Eslecaller? Maybe... 

If you could point me in the direction of that thread, I'd be most appreciative. 

Sorry for double posting. To clarify @Chaos, did the ORIGINAL Shareholders influence the Shards Intent. As in the original 16 picked up blank Intent neutral Shards, and influenced the outcome of the Shard's Intent. From my years of lurking here, I don't think anyone has actually asked him this particular question. 

I know that's what the letter says. However, just like Amaram, he easily could've been outwardly kind, and inside he had a desire to destroy everything. There was no malice to Ruin's actions. It wasn't "I'm going to ruin things because I'm evil!"

I've read WoB before that states that Adonalsium could have possibly Shattered, and left different Shards. Has anyone ever asked if the Shards already had their Intents, or did the individuals influence the outcome? 

I have to disagree with the while "coercion isn't honorable" thing. I've seen honor used as a whip to goad someone into an action. Several times is life and in fiction.

No offense intended, and it is an interesting sidebar,but back to my original topic. What got me started thinking about it is the fight between Kaladin and Szeth. Szeth was cut through the neck, and his eyes burned out. And the dropped Honorblade didn't disappear. He was completely dead. I didn't really pick up on it until my 3rd re-read. So if he could be brought back via fabrial, I see no reason why Ym would truly be dead. He didn't even get it through the spine, just the chest.

So I've been kicking around here and lurking for a few months and I think that I've noticed something. None of the other proto-Radiants were killed in their interludes. And since we learned that Stormlight can heal a Shardblade wound from Kaladin, I fully believe that Ym isn't dead. It makes sense to me that he is still alive.