Kolfire

No! Don't eat the cookies! THEY WILL RUIN YOU!

(spoiler for mistborn)

how do you even use signatures I have been trying to figure that out

I got 59% truthwatcher!

So I was recently skimming through the shard and was thinking about Trell and Senna. We know that preservation had failed someone and i propose that that person was Senna or as we know her, Trell. I think that when Laras was about to become a shard Senna told him that he had to contain Ruin. She made him promise this. After he had become Preservation she became Justice and decided to hold him to his promise. After the siege of Luthadel happened he had failed her by letting all these people get killed by Ruin. She was really angry and flew towards Scadrial. This is the red haze we now know as Trell. She wants to enact justice on Preservation. 

P.S. I know that he should have called her by her shards name but maybe he never saw her when she wasn't Senna? What do you think? 

Preservation said: "Oh, Senna ... I'm losing this place. Losing them all ..." when Kelsier was comforting him after the slaughter that was the Siege of Luthadel (john203 on rainbow shards on scadrial.)

 

I recently was skimming through the shard and bumped into a thing about Senna. I was wondering who she could be and thought of an idea. What if Senna was another shard? There are unnamed vessels and one of them could have made preservation promise to hold off ruin and help people survive. Now when so many people died she was annoyed that he failed her. Because of this she got really angry. She then sprinted towards scadrial and formed the red haze and we now know her as Trell. Any idea what her intent could be? Post your ideas below

Welcome to the shard! Im sure it will be great having you here.

P.S. Don't eat the cookies, they will ruin you.

No No the cookies are amazing! Here have some! (and an up vote for both of you)

Stormlight+Nicrosil

put out lots of orbs in highstorm or go out yourself, Take lots of investiture. Now uberpowered.

On February 10, 2012 at 1:39 AM, KChan said:

This. A thousand times this.

Alternately, I have quite the Talent for breaking towel racks. No, I am not making this up. No, I don't know why, but it keeps happening.

SAME!!!!! But with me it is toilet paper racks

heal allomancy hurt epic powers 

1. Allomancy- 6
2. Feruchemy- 20
3. Hemalurgy- 11
6. Awakening- 3
7. Surgebinding- 14
8. Forgery-6
11. Voidbinding- 5
13. Oculatory Stuff- 5
14. Epic powers- 5
15. Rithmatics- 10

when you go on 17th shard so much that the librarians have practically reserved a seat for you at there computers

(when you then realize that that was them trying to hynoptise you)

when the library computers all have 17th shard on the top hit. on all 15 of them

This reminds me of when, in Steelheart the reckoners kill

If you are fighting someone with atium you could use the same logic and just push and pull so many objects that no matter how they dodge they are hit by something.

This is a song I created from 5 guys named moe by joe jackson. I then made it into a brandon sanderson song.

I gotta tell you a story from way back

About the book lovin craze

There's Mistborn, Warbreaker, Way of Kings, White sand

You should read, you should read, you should read, Steelheart

Brandon, Brandon, Sanderson

What’s the best author around?

Makes the fans jump up and down

Who’s the talk of 17th shard?

Brandon Sanderson

When I start to read it all

I will jump and shout

Tell me who do I always read

Brandon Sanderson

He writes at the speed of light

But that don't mean a thing

They are great and you'll know why

When you hear me sing

High brow, low brow, all agree

He’s the best in writing

I'm telling you folks you just got to read

Brandon Sanderson

There's Mistborn

Warbreaker

One book, Mistborn

Two books, Warbreaker

Three books, Way of Kings

Four books, White Sand

Five books, Steelheart

Five giant books by Bran.

Question:

What if there was a metal that was the inverse of bendalloy? And I mean the literal inverse. Not like cadmium/chromium. Instead of slowing time for you, it would speed everyone else up. Those might as well be the same thing though, the reader thinks. The reader is right. But if they are the same, we have a problem. Because, confusingly, if this is true, bendalloy and cadmium are both infinitely more powerful then the other metal at what it does. I know that makes no sense, but bear with me.

If... slowing time for you speeds everyone else up,

then... Cadmium speeds up everything not in the bubble

then... Cadmium speeds up infinite space

then... Cadmium is better than bendalloy at being bendalloy.

Unfortunately, if we accept that, things start to break.

The facts:

With Bendalloy, speeding up more space requires more energy

Therefore, speeding up infinite space with Cadmium should take infinite energy

Infinite energy is represented by one cadmium pellet

Speeding up infinite space at 2 times the speed would also require infinite energy

It should only take one cadmium pellet

It takes 2

What happened?!?!

Some things should be possible with Cadmium and Bendalloy which aren't. For instance,

If a pellet has infinite energy, it should last forever.

It should also be able to be flared at ridiculously high rates forever.

Sorry, this replie is a little late.

I just want to point out that in my opinion, there is a really good place to put four aromatic metals. Has it ever struck anyone that bendalloy and cadmium/chromium (i forget which) don't belong with gold and electrum? Because gold and electrum don't affect time, merely ones perception of time, and as such are not temporal metals. I believe that there should be another catogorie for them. 

i dont feel hungry but here, have some of mine. Freshly baked! 

awesome wax actor

Thanks for replying!

You are probably right, but I will argue for the sake of argument. (Debate team represent!) 

​First, I would argue that every savant misting is in some way dependent on their metal. Pewter mistings are certinly dependent, as they suffer intense pewter drag. 

Second, I don't see a refutation to the most important part of the theory, that the heightenings are really an aspect of gaining more breaths. As you said yourself, "the Steel Misting have some ability to use their power with more precision/control" The same is true of the heightenings.

Source: coppermind

• Third - 600 Breaths - Perfect Color Recognition (Similar to Perfect Pitch, but with the ability to determine precise hues and harmonies of colors)
• Sixth - 3,500 Breaths - Instinctive Awakening (Ability to use basic Awakening Commands without training or practice. Difficult Commands become easier to practice and discover)
• Seventh - 5,000 Breaths - Breath Recognition (Similar to Aura recognition, but for objects that have been invested with Breath)
• Eighth - 10,000 Breaths - Command Breaking (Ability to override Commands of another Awakener's Awakened object)
• Ninth - 20,000 Breaths - Greater Awakening (Ability to Awaken stone and steel, though it takes large amounts of Breath and specialized Commands)
• Tenth - 50,000 Breaths - Audible Command (Ability to Awaken objects the Awakener is not physically touching) , Color Distortion (Creates colors from a white object by bending the light around it), Perfect Invocation (Awakener is able to draw more color when Awakening leaving objects white rather than grey)

All of these heightenings make a person better at using magic, similar to steel savanting. Also, I would argue that gaining more breaths does leave an effect. This is proven by how people quickly get used to having more breaths and it begins to feel natural. Also, we don't know what happens when a savant turns off their metals perminately. As a matter of fact this has only ever happened with breath. It may be that after a period of recovery, an ex-savant becomes a drab due to the holes made in their spirit web. They would, like a drab, have less than normal investiture. 

To sum up, if the definition of savant is a lasting effect on a spirit web, we cannot know if savants have ever existed because no known savant outside of war breaker has ever released there power. (At least, to my knowledge, if this is not true, please tell me) Because this cannot be a qualification, the only qualification is an altered affect while the magic is possessed. Breaths fit this requirement.

thank you.

How do you spoiler tag?

Hi everyone! This is my first post and it is on the topic of breaths. My theory is that when 

 
you get more breath and reach the Heightnings, you are really just getting better at using 
 
your breath and therefore are savanting breath. Proof of this theory is that when spook  
 
stops savanting his breath he feels duller and that is exactly what basher feels when, in
 
the prologue, he uses his breath. Also the literal definition of someone who is not having
 
breaths is drab! What do y'all think?