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2016-12-01 [Arcanum Unbounded] University Bookstore - Seattle, WA
Orsium replied to Wetlander's topic in Events and Signings
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Yep, that was my thought as well. Especially with the way his inflection sounded.
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I asked if we had seen any Shards that have been Splintered recombine yet. He said: Have you SEEN any? No. Good Question. (Emphasis his)
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Lol I have the Kindle version of all three in one. So that one. But if I did have to pick, I'd say TFE. Getting introduced to all the characters and Allomancy, watching Vin's growth...it's what hooked me on everything else in the cosmere.
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Why Ruins power is different from all other shards.
Orsium replied to Navy Seon's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Are you asking why nobody is born with Hemalurgy? I think its because Preservation had to expend himself in order to give people Allomancy. Thats why Ruin was stronger. -
Well, Preservation/Harmony kinda enables that feat. The only ones we have seen use the mists directly are Vin and Wax, not just any Allomancer can draw on them. So would Honor like give it a push to help? Would you have to have a Connection to both Preservation and Honor to jump like that? Kinda makes me wonder what the mechanics are of converting Stormlight to Breath. That's the only on-screen instance we have seen of crossing magic systems, unless I'm mistaken, and it raises the same question about Connection.
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True...I'm not saying it would be easy. I just think that Vin could beat Kaladin. The best of each respective abilities we have seen on screen. It would come down to who fights dirtier. Vin has emotional alomancy and time bubbles and duralumin. Kal has lashings and healing and more actual combat training. But when you take Leeching into account, Vin wins as soon as she touches Kal. He then dies from having his Investiture drained completely when they are a few hundred feet feet in the sky. Also Mistborn can burn Atium. Way unfair.
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Atium was kind of already done in Next with Nic Cage. I think that realistically for a live action movie they would have to only focus on the "flashy" metals. Steel, Iron, Pewter and Tin. And Atium for the climax/final fight scene. There's just not enough time in a movie to really hit all of them. Now, if it were a TV show...you could spend the first season world building and developing powers, and then move on to actually using them and story progression. But yeah...steel/iron lines are easy, so is moving things and jumping/floating. Pewter is just your basic overreaction of hits and tin could be done with camera zoom and selective volume control. Emotional metals I think would just be a fuzzy edged screen focusing on the target with a voiceover like Breeze does in the books explaining what emotions are being affected. Copper would be a general muting(think post explosion hearing loss scenes. Starts real quiet and then adjusts back to being able to hear), and bronze would be a heartbeat pulse that gets louder as the person zeroes in on who they are seeking.
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In my head I have always pictured Vin as pretty much exactly like Summer Glau in Firefly. Same with Nathan Fillion as Kelsier. Nobody else really has a parallel that jumps out at me immediately, but those two I think are perfect.
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[Secret History] An interesting excerpt from Cognitive
Orsium replied to Kelsier's Boxing Glove's topic in Mistborn
Nothing tells stick what it is. Stick is a stick. -
Pathfinder: No worries, yeah I am trying to figure out if there is the possibility that Marsh had scars from the pits somehow, we know he didn't when he was human, but could he have gotten them in between becoming an inquisitor and where we are now in the books. I REALLY think that Sovereign is Marsh rather that Kelsier. Iron Eyes: Marsh is one of my favorite characters, so yeah. Glad you approve.
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I'll be there as well, my first one. Maybe I can meet some of y'all. BTW I have some questions about the process being it's my first one if you guys wouldn't mind helping...like do I have to reserve a spot ahead of time? Let the bookstore know I want to buy a copy? What time does it start? How early should I be?
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Hmm...I know what you're referring to, and yes, he did say that the "small pools are no longer there." But the sharp rocks that would cause the scars should still be there if he did go digging, right? Whether or not Ruin made him go or he did it on his own after Sazed ascended. IDK, either question I think could be telling in how he answers. Ahhhh it's so hard deciding. Everyone feel free to make suggestions to polish the question. BTW, in looking that up I confirmed that Ironeyes IS Marsh according to Brandon. So I spoke too soon on that part. I don't know how to link, copy/paste isn't working, but if you go to the Interview database and click on "atium" it'll take you to what I was looking at.
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Well...just got home and checked out the end of AoL again. A couple of things I noticed. No names were ever dropped, just a reference to "my brothers work." The eye tattoos and one of the sockets being crushed leads me to think it IS actually Marsh. I retract that part of my theory. I still think that Sovereign is Marsh rather that Kelsier, though. Ironeyes is wearing a robe in the end of AoL, you never see his arms, just hs hands and his face. So he could be scarred. Plus it is heavily implied that the memory in the end of BoM is very old. He could have gotten another eye spike in the intervening years. I'm going to the Calamity signing in Seattle in a week and a half. I gotta figure out good question that wont get RAFO'd. Maybe something along the lines of "How long after Harmony ascended is the memory at the end of BoM, and when did Marsh replace his eye spike in reference to that." EDIT: Thought of a better question. Did Marsh ever visit the Pits of Hathsin looking for atium after he became an inquisitor.
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I don't know. My personal opinion is that S=K is too obvious. Too clean. I think that Marsh is actually Sovereign. The one eye spike thing is kinda what is tipping me over the edge. I know it is implied that Marsh appeared at the end of AoL with both spikes, but I don't think that was him. Ruin knew where the pits were, is it that much of a stretch to think that Ruin sent him into the pits to look for any Atium that Kelsier missed? Marsh even commented at one point that he had lots of injuries from when he was being controlled by Him. And even if it wasn't during when Ruin had control, its been 300 years. You think Marsh NEVER went back to the pits to check? I'm maintaining that S=M.
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Yes, but...if he has such an advanced awareness, and is constantly aware of his personal Spiritual health, maybe he knows where his limits are...he knows that there is a line that he can't cross without damaging his spiritweb. Who knows what that line is. So maybe he is able to cause bruises, but not spill blood. Just as an example, not saying that that is the case. But when he engaged Kelsier, he noticed that his meter wasn't moving, so to speak. That was what surprised him. Not that he COULD hurt him, but just that it didn't have any negative effects on himself.
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So here's my theory. Metal toxicity isn't really a thing that exists on this planet. Ruin and Preservation built the humans on Scadrial, why would they leave that aspect in people when that is the primary way they access Investiture? I think that it comes down to the fact that Investiture WANTS to be used. Take Raoden on Sel. He got "sick" when he couldn't access the Dor. So if you ingest metals, and then DON'T use them, or don't have the correct alloy(to continue the parallel, not having the chasm line), you aren't getting metal toxicity, you are getting the side effect of having an open link to Investiture but not using it. Or not having the correct size "nozzle" to channel it if the alloy is wrong. I think Kelsier in world just THINKS it's metal toxicity because of the ignorance of Realmatics.
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Isn't it stated somewhere that killing/hurting someone damages your spiritweb somehow? Hoid seems to have a very intimate knowledge of how Realmatic Theory works. So If he IS trying to rejoin all 16 shards, maybe its less of a "can't" thing versus a "I know hat happens when I do this and it doesn't support my end goal." So he was scared to do anything to Kelsier, but he can essentially watch his spiritweb and was surprised that it didn't affect him to cause damage in the Spiritual Realm. Once he discovered that he didn't have an issue with it. Basically, I'm suggesting that in order to recombine all 16, which would be a MASSIVE amount of power, any tears or damages in your spiritweb could cause the process to either fail or kill you. So he is absolutely unwilling to do anything that would jeopardize that. I do like the theory though. I support it.
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As far as a straight up brawl, yeah I agree that a full mistborn could probably beat a surgebinder, but that's more of an issue of how the abilities are directed rather than the amount of it IMO.
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There are lots of theories about this, I like to lean towards the one that says he is trying to collect powers in order to have a Connection to each shard so that he can rejoin all the shards and bring back Adolnasium. Not necessarily the person, but the power. I forgot who started that one, but credit to whoever did.
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<p>Going back to TLR being stronger than normal, he DID hold Preservations power. And a full Feruchemist. So I'm of the mind that his temporary god-hood has something to do with why he is stronger than even Elend was with Lerasium, separate from the whole compounding aspect. The compounding was just icing on the cake.</p> <p> </p> <p>EDIT: I forgot that he never actually used Lerasium, he made himself one with Preservations power.</p>
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I don't think they would have ascended, but I do agree with the leakiness being too much Investiture to effectively use. Aons glow. Surgebinders glow. Awakeners glow after what, the 9th Heightening? (Been a minute since I looked at them). I think glowing is an indicator of how much Investiture is being channeled. Leaking is when you channel too much to contain with just a glow.
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Would that be perhaps more of a natural progression than actually being a savant? I think that the whole bone/joint thing in your example would be just a side effect of either healing wounds all the time or just putting excessive amounts of stress on them. I think I'm going to re-read what was said about savants in HoA...after I finish my new shiny BoM copy. Maybe something will jump out that could relate Allomancy to Feruchemy.
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That makes sense. And could potentially be super OP.
