Elkanah
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Yeah, do you see the cleverness there? By outing you they'll continue to think it's me. You continue to protect me and and they are foiled! You just have to vote for someone no one else is likely to vote for like venture. Edit: To keep your cover partly intact, I'll do the same by voting for Matrim
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So Matrim, I'll put down my rock and you'll put down your sword and we'll try to kill each other like civilized people? Shall we switch to Illwei?
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You know what I meant
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I agree that windrunner should claim if they have an actual check. I know playing coy is good, but you're probably already the target for the elims and I'm sorry for that.
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All right I'll come clean. I have enough Deo to protect myself two out of the next three nights if I spend the one I don't buy a bodyguard collecting extra money. Since Ashbringer is the actual monk, I'm pretty sure he'd be willing to protect me the night I need off. So stop. please. for your sakes and mine, elims.
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Wait, it isn't pronounced "ill wee"? I'm sorry. I did not try hard enough. So is it pronounced iyway? I have no idea how the y sound works there
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I try, Illwei. I appreciate you. Or was it Illaoi. No maybe Ilway. Perhaps I'll'wee?
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Yeah, I'm sure that's what you meant
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oof. All right, well. I did what I could, then. I have no regrets. I wish you all the best of luck. When Illwei has four votes and holds this opinion, I don't stand a chance Edit: Illwei's four votes
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Ashbringer - Suspicious for vote patterns slight elim Elkanah - Busy and about to be lynched, but still village Kingsway - Posted one time and voted for Windrunner. @Kings_way, we could use your help figuring this out. Null Gears - is on my side for the moment which I appreciate. Has switched back and forth a bit, but I find his vote on Matrim consistent. slight village Matrim - Has been eradic with votes and accusations. Has jumped on most available bandwagons. slight elim Windrunner - I appreciate their help. The surety that Matrim was bad was weird... although, maybe they saw something. Sorry if I'm outing you, but it may be mondo important right now if you are some kind of seer that knows Matrim is bad. That makes more sense than any of my other theories. very slight village hoping you're a seer Turtle - Is also voting for Matrim, but hasn't said much. Please come out of your shell? I super believe in you. You can help us solve this game. Null Straw - alignment is pretty dependent on Matrim's flip. If Matrim is an elim, then Straw probably is too. If not, I think we need to keep him around. Heaven help us if he's an elim. very slight village Mint - Hasn't been here either. @Frozen Mint, please. we need your help. You're officially obi wan. Null CadCom - Is voting for me for fair reasons, but we could lose over this mislynch. probably village Illwei - About the same as Straw. I really appreciate how helpful Illwei is being, but you're wrong. probably village
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I told you not to do that!
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I guess it was a little bit This was as well. I'm going to go through and try to give you my reads as best I can so I leave at least something for you to use if we get another cycle.
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Wow, I also didn't realize it was this close. I don't know who else I would vote on. Matrim really is my best guess. Maybe Windrunner? I'm not sure why he so sure about Matrim, but I do appreciate his vote of confidence. Hmm. Village windrunner only has one reason to vote for Matrim and that is he suspects Matrim is bad. I guess maybe he could think I have a useful aviar. (I don't. It's a messenger that I haven't used). Elim Windrunner votes on teammate Matrim to remove at the last second to enact the plan Illwei put out? I don't know why elim windrunner votes Matrim. Remove a good player before he hits his stride? Or because he thought it would be relatively easy? This is true in that I will do some actual analysis if the next cycle exists. I honestly had no idea that was even a question. That does make it urgent that we do not lynch me. I understood before, but if we are that close to lylo, we need to get an actual elim. Just to reframe this slightly, you want to lynch me because people might start to trust me once I have time to do analysis? I see that only as a positive. I provide analysis, we catch the bad guys. This is only bad if you presuppose very surely that I am an elim. I guess when I turn up village, look into - I don't know - Matrim definitely. Maybe Straw or Ashbringer? Who else is voting for me? Illwei has been really helpful at spurring conversation for him not to be village. But I've been wrong about Illwei before... Probably windrunner even though they tried to lynch Matrim. Maybe lynch Matrim first and then figure out his relationship with windrunner.
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Very interesting and kind of what I expected. Thank you for continuing to try to solve the game. We'll see if I don't die in your place.
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Elims, don't target me. I'm not worth it
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I can explain it. It's because im lurking. I have the game up on my phone and I'm trying to stay apprised of the goings on. Monday was nonstop from 7 am to almost midnight. Tuesday I finished about 6 By today they have the program better figured out, so I'm not needed all the time. I'm on mobile and could be called upon to fix something at any time, so I can't do much analysis. However, I can respond to questions and keep an eye on the thread. Tomorrow, the summit wraps up and I travel home, so depending on the availability of service, I'll lurk more in the morning than the evening... I mean be active. Not lurk
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Oh good. I was thinking 50 might be enough to put me over :P Haha, modern noncommitalism fits your description pretty well. "Theorizer of all things Obvious and Useless"
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I mean, you really probably didn't. Sorry. I could have been much more tactful
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Wow! I was mentioned 47 times on one page! Careful guys, you might make me start feeling important and then my head will swell to gargantuan size and pop! That's fair. I promise to be the most helpful ever starting Friday morning. Basically I'm asking for a stay of execution for one cycle. Then if I haven't changed your mind, I don't blame you for lynching me. bwahahahaha . I'm sorry Matrim. I shouldn't laugh, but Illwei switched off of me fast? I guess to be at least slightly more objective, that is the basis of my suspicion for you. So if I'm suspicious of you for switching quickly, that's a more than fair reason to distrust myself or Illwei. I am here to elaborate I went back and read both cycles to try and be more useful in my analysis. Ashbringer's vote on Silberfarben felt off to me and then their lack of a vote as pointed out by Illwei felt like a pattern of weird noncommitalism (new word. Just made it up.) Like he knows the lynch will hit a villager, so he can't go after it too hard. Except of course it was Matrim who pointed that out day one and he's a higher suspicon than Ashbringer is for me. My inner child was going to say "Oh yeah? In the interest of not dying, I'll vote for you" and put your name in red even though that would do nothing. However, I can be an adult and only tell you about my childish thoughts instead of enacting them. No that's a fair point. If you were doing other things then you were busy and I should respect that. I still think you're slightly suspicious but maybe not enough to kill you right now... of course that means I have to vote for Matrim to survive... which would be what I just made fun of myself for making fun of you for doing. In the interest of not making this post any more hypocritical than it already is: Ashbringer I'll wait and go back and look back through Matrim's posts. Actually, that won't get me anywhere except voting for Matrim. Sorry, I set this aside for a minute and came back. There really isn't a reason to wait to vote for Matrim It makes practical sense and he's my best guess at an elim anyway.
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How interesting. Might I suggest you do it again if you can? EDIT As I see it, there are two possible teams. It's either Kings Way - Silberfarben - Matrim or Xino - Mist - Vapor. It's hard to say which is the actual team. Despite both teams' relative inactivity in the thread, Mist has cited several times PM reasons which could be evidence. That leaves the likely monk between Ashbringer and myself. There is an outside chance that it was Venture (that would explain his desire to vote more this game), but I don't think it is. Since I am not the monk I think we have about figured out the game. Mist @Zillah@kynedath
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Okay, after reading the thread I probably would have voted for Straw, but Illwei brings up a good point that there should have been more effort to save him. My second vote would have been for Jester and then Matrim... so basically what happened anyway. I'm trying to put away all my theories on how Matrim fits on a team with basically everyone. It's a struggle, but I don't think it will lead me anywhere. I'll follow Illwei's vote on Ashbringer. They didn't vote to save Jester or Straw and they had a weird vote on cycle one as well.
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Yeah sorry, I was trying to catch up, but every time I have a few minutes to read the thread another fire shows up I need to put out. Enough griping. I was going to vote on Matrim, but that was the weirdest hammer I've ever seen. Even more so since we could just lynch Straw now, and it looks like he still intends to. I'll respond now since I'm here and start writing a bigger post. It could be a while coming depending on what I'm needed for at work.
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Well, I have a minute. Here is a rundown of Ventyl's votes That's all of them. One vote for Gears and two votes for Lotus That coupled with this: Now that I know an elim was pushing this perspective makes me think my contact and Lotus are both very likely village. Elim Ventyl had no reason to try and persuade me on this point. I don't think it was Ventyl trying to throw us off at this point either as there was no reason to believe they'd be voted off. I'll look more into these interactions in the day cycle.
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I'm so sorry everyone. Life is a little hectic I'll be working about sixty hours this week, so my activity will drop noticeably for the next about two cycles. I will make a good analysis post every 24 hour day, but it's likely to be either right before or after rollover time. Speaking of, I'll get started on that now EDIT since I'm the only one up this late. Ok, first the rules clarification post I should have done last cycle. @Experience Sorry if any of these have already been asked. I did my best to see if these had already been clarified, but I may have missed it. Now that's done let's look at what happened with the lynch After that readthrough I have a bad gut feeling about Matrim. Let me go through his posts and see if I can figure out why Sorry, I didn't finish linking all the posts. It's getting pretty late. Pretty much I have a weird feeling about his first vote for Reading and that may have just been the timing. Then he votes for Silberfarben, but not to start a lynch on him. I'm not sure what you were hoping for in that case. I understand the vote on Ashbringer for jumping on a lynch train. I find both Ashbringer and Jester a little suspicious for their reactions to other people's votes. I am guessing you were not voting Jester to let them play a bit longer and learn the ropes, but you didn't really bring them up at all even though they were doing the same thing as Ashbringer did, but more often. TL;DR the people I find most suspicious for right now are Matrim, Jester and maybe Ashbringer. I'll try and look more into other interactions tomorrow.
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I will reveal my contact is not Venture. I will reveal my contact tonight to at least one person tonight either through a PM I already have or via a messenger to make sure it gets through in case I die. Hmm. Actually, if they turn out to be an elim we are hosed... so I will reveal who I revealed to to a third party... or I will just reveal at the end of the night. I'm not getting lynched, so I'll hold on to it for another second. So yeah. It's not venture who is claiming to me to have received the adjudicator role. It's interesting that you claim they haven't been using their role. That's quite the assumption. Can you give me a little more info? The most likely lynch target every turn (at least the night before) so far has appeared to be lotus. I promised not to vote on Xino, and I'm more or less okay with either lynch. I'll vote Lord Silberfarben. That way I have a vote down and I am covering whether Ashbringer is the monk or not. I mean, It definitely could be me Sorry, the next two cycles will be more busy for me. I will be working about sixty hours this week, but I promise one good post per day probably later at night. either just before or after rollover time.
