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Iirc Vasher implies that all returned have the ability to do so and just don't know it. He references how all the gods look like they think they should, despite not being that way in life.

Don't think there should be a spoiler tag, but let me know if I need to change. So the preface to Edgedancer where Khriss is describing the planet mentions that the gravity is lower, the oxygen concentration is higher, and that a foot is longer on Roshar than it is in other places. Would these things together mean that the people of Roshar, the Alethi in particular as they are already noted as bigger than others, are giants? Nothing extreme, but I can't help but think of Adolin as possibly being 8 feet tall or so. Does anyone remember how Hoid matches up with everyone there?

Hey all, I wasn't sure if anyone had created a master list for all of the Radiant oaths. A quick search of the site didn't turn one up so I thought I'd create one. I'd appreciate if people could help me out with oaths that I either haven't phrased correctly or ones that I've missed/was in a WoB. Thanks! Bondsmith - Adhesion/Tension "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." "I will unite instead of divide." Dustbringer - Abrasion/Division "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination."Edgedancer - Abrasion/Progression "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." "I will remember those who have been forgotten." Elsecaller - Transformation/Transportation "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination."Lightweaver - Illumination/Transformation "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." After the standard oath for all radiants, we know that lightweavers don't make any more codified declarations. Instead they strip away all the lies they tell themselves and gain power as they gain knowledge of themselves. Skybreaker - Division/Gravitation "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." "I will put the law before all else." Stoneward - Cohesion/Tension "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination."Windrunner - Adhesion/Gravitation "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." "I will protect those who cannot protect themselves." "I will protect even those I hate, so long as it is right." Willshaper - Cohesion/Transportation "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination."Truthwatcher - Illumination/Progression "Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination." All right, now what am I missing?

While I mostly enjoy Wayne, I have two large problems with him. First - He delivers that check on the first of each month to the daughter of the man he killed when he was 18. Okay, we get it, you feel bad, but this horribly masochistic behavior does nobody any good. You don't enjoy it, she enjoys making you hate yourself but doesn't want to see you, and it just furthers Wayne's horrible depression. Second, and perhaps more excusable - His treatment of Steris. As far as Wayne can tell, Steris bought Wax and Wax is incredibly upset about it. So what does he do? Try and get Steris to release Wax from bondage (see: marriage) by being so horrible that getting Wax isn't worth it if Wayne comes with. I say this is more excusable because Wax doesn't ever try to stop it. He tentatively says she isn't *that* bad (implying that she is bad, just not to the degree Wayne thinks) a few times, but doesn't put his foot down until the end of Bands of Mourning. Wayne isn't privy to the moments of emotion and cooperation that Wax and Steris have and bond over, so as far as he knows he still has Wax's approval. That said, I SWEAR BY ALL SIXTEEN SHARDS OF ADONALSIUM, HE BETTER TREAT Steris RIGHT IN THE FUTURE. SHE HAS THE WAX SEAL OF APPROVAL NOW SO BACK OFF.

After reading, I interpreted it as her talking to Trell. The context here being Trell - "Kill him" Bleeder - "You know he's just another pawn." We know that she's at least fond of Wax, so trying to convince the guy above her that she doesn't need to kill him is within character.

If I remember the in-text description, Feruchemy is purely of preservation, hemalurgy is purely of ruin, and allomancy is the bastard child of both. In Feruchemy, you store energy then release that same amount of energy, no more and no less. That makes it preservation. Hemalurgy causes the loss of power, making it of ruin. Allomancy is the odd one here, because energy is gained, though I believe it is explained away by mixing the two shards.

Spinner?

Perhaps Trell is the name given to the portion of Harmony that is more of Ruin than Preservation? We know that Sazid tries to hold himself apart from his powers (the scene with Wax in SoS where he says something along the lines of "I agree with you but the powers don't") and we know that Ruin could speak to people who were spiked - ask Trell, and he will answer. If Sazid begins to think that maybe he has preserved the Elendel Basin too thoroughly, is it possible the conciousness of the power would take over and force him to take certain actions? Like someone with extreme OCD almost, he sees something that has been preserved too perfectly for too long (stresser) and he has to throw a wrench into the plans (compulsion). That could be the cost of housing opposing shards within one's self.

I keep imagining that the spike is the one that grants him the ability to store fortune. Miles mentions somewhere that Wax makes shots with a pistol that nobody should physically be able to make, so that's either Harmony helping out, some other supernatural aid, or just lots of dumb luck. The tarson-killing, bounce a bullet off another bullet shot to the head is just way too extraordinary for a marksman to make, particularly considering the accuracy of that type of pistol.

Ya know, I went through the entire first read of Alloy of Law going "well OBVIOUSLY this guy was an atium misting hur dur dur" only to realize most of the way through that atium wasn't a thing anymore. Needless to say Bloody Tan became really really confusing with that revelation. This makes so much more sense. However, I don't think she intentionally took in the Trellspike. I think she probably ate Tan and happened to absorb the spike inside him when she did so. Given the choice between the god who had forced her to run off the man she loved (we know that until her bleeder persona, she had an extremely difficult time having emotions of her own instead of her character's) and a new god she chose the new, but only having one spike she never stabilized with Trell, and so was much more erratic then we are led to believe she should have been.

So Harmony has been around for what, 300 years now? How much of the Sazid that we know from the original trilogy do you think still exists in there? His whole thing with Wax in Shadows of Self was rough, real rough, and I would like to believe that the Sazid before the shards would have at least given Wax a heads up as to what was coming. I understand that he has the entire world to look after (and hell if I ain't just burning up inside to know what's going on at the south pole), but it seems like it would have been a good idea to let Wax know that there was another god prowling around.

Gotcha. And if that's what you're talking about then I don't believe Harmony does. He put down his advice in the Words of Founding that explained electricity and farming and such, but he seems really miffed that they haven't invented radios yet, so I would guess that he put as much as he could into the words then tried to stay hands off except in a few extreme cases (Wax)

What is MAG? While I've read most of Sanderson's works several times over I'm new to the forums. Anywho, my understanding of genetics is that feruchemy can't be a dominant trait. If it was, then there wouldn't be any need for a selective breeding program to go on for several hundred years. Assuming that TLR was smart about it and kept lineages, the moment any terrace showed himself/herself as a FF then every blood relation he had would have been wiped out.

A few things: 1) Totally right about the DNA. It's possible that FF (full feruchemist) is a recessive trait and that there are still some wandering around that we just haven't heard of yet, though it seems like they'd be a big deal in this society - on par with a mistborn. Also possible that a small population could have spread out, though with mistborn it was spread on purpose and with FFs it was intentionally bred out of them, so they may face more challenges. 2) Those terrace people who were FF trained as keepers, and we know that none of them survived from the original trilogy (again, save sazid). Question though - did all of the terrace people survive? I know there weren't many of them left, but they all managed to make it through the catacandre right? Could be a problem if they lost a large chunk of their already small population. 3) What does WoB stand for? I've applied the title "words of Brandon" in my head but don't actually know 4) From what we've seen of his interactions with Wax, it certainly doesn't seem like it. He definitely seems to work on a need-to-know basis and sends help when he can/thinks it best. However, no confirmation.

If I'm remembering the scene correctly, Renarin tells Kaladin he has epilepsy (something other doctors told him in the first place) but when going through the questions, Kaladin can't identify what type it is and comes away from the conversation with more of a "I guess that's what it is" than any kind of certainty. Regarding the age thing, we know that shallan had pattern from a very early age, so no reason to think that Renarin wouldn't have had his partner from a young age as well. Additionally, he's from a high family in a warrior society, so it's likely that as a young child he was offered the chance to hold a blade and it screamed at him. If nobody made the connection between the blade and his seizures, then he might have touched it again or been handed one to start his training and fallen sick.

Okay, I keep seeing references to Renarin's sickness or weakness, usually when theories are being bandied about regarding the nightwatcher. Something I feel like should be pondered: Renarin was never sick that we know of. His supposed weakness and seizures and uncertainty can all come down to a screaming voice in his mind every time he touched a shardblade and conversations he had with something no one else can see. If he's weaker than other nobles, it's because he never trained with weapons the way most did and probably kept his nose in a book and his shoulder's hunched. In a society of warriors and a family of warrior princes, he would be extremely ashamed of his "sickness" and experience bouts of self-loathing, leading to actual medical problems. This was probably something everyone already knew, but I kept seeing posts on how Dalinar's boon was for Renarin's health and it bothered me, because his health was never in question to begin with.

The book Heleran brought her was one of Jasnah's early works, not The Way of Kings.

I'm fairly certain that Hemalurgy can steal both allomantic powers and feruchemical ones independently. Regardless, I could have sworn that somewhere in SoM they made a mention of there being no more memory-storing feruchemists, which would mean no more full feruchemists. We know that all full feruchemists were trained as keepers, and that by the end of the first trilogy that sazid was the only keeper left, so it would make sense that no more full-bloods remain.

While I know that I'm always fantasizing about powers that Hoid/Wit may or not posses, is it possible that he has this as well? It would certainly explain how Kaladin warmed to him so quickly when he's generally suspicious of everyone he meets. On the coppermind wiki it says that filling a duralumin mind reduces other's awareness of you, so maybe filling it all the way just makes you look past them? Alternatively if it works more like you're saying maybe it's more of a disappear in crowds kind of thing, where they just look over you without taking any special note.

Has anyone else thought about the villain potential that a duralumin compounder would have? When a duralumin feruchemist is filling his metal mind, people around him notice him less and trust him less. This leads me to believe that if he filled it full-tilt (in the same way that an iron feruchemist might put all of his weight into his metal minds for a time) he might become effectively unnoticeable - poor man's invisibility. Not a bad ability for the bad guy in flight. But if he taps his metal mind he can very quickly build trust and connections with other people. Not quite the same finesse as emotional allomancy, but effective all the same. Now imagine the extreme feelings of connection and trust that a duralumin compounder would be able to produce. Perhaps even create a diety-worshipper relationship with everyone in the area? I'd love to see one of these people just to see what they did with it.

Hey all, I'm not able to pick up a physical copy of "Shadows of Self" for awhile, but wondered if anyone knew when/which audiobook sites were going to put out audios for it? I personally use audiobooks.com but audible or some of the other reputable ones would be nice too. Thanks!

Ahhhhhh.... it's good to be back in a community. I expected a lot more speculation, but this was fantastic! Thanks guys!

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I wish. I'm extremely jealous of those of you who can! Ask lots of questions!

So of the original 10 radiants, we know that one was condemned to torture (Talenel'Elin) and the other nine walked free. Of those nine, we know that one of them continued to roam the world enforcing various laws and maintaining a following (Nalan'Elin). So what happened to the other 8? Did they maintain their powers or just the ability to suck in stormlight? Are they just wandering around somewhere? What do we think/speculate they've been doing for the last several thousand(?) years?

Let me start this by apologizing for spelling, I'm listening to the book this time round instead of reading and don't have the book on hand. This may have been mentioned in other posts, but I have come to the conclusion (due to taravangeen's (Tv) journal) that shallan's brother helleran is still alive and the loose idea that TV may have created szeth. In his conversation with szeth in Jah Keved, he muses that Shallan may have been trained by Jasnah or her brother. This means that at the very least TV's smart self thought helleran was a surgebinder. This means that he likely wouldn't be able to stand to hold a shardblade (dead one), let alone charge into battle to kill Amaram. All we actually know of the assassin is that he had red hair and wielded the same shard that Helleran possessed at one point. Since many in Jah Keved have red hair, it doesn't seem so far fetched to assume that Hell could have handed off his shard blade upon taking some of his oaths. In a chapter header, TV smart comes to the conclusion that the honor blades are in shin and muses that a truthless with an honorblade would be useful. It seems oddly coincidental that szeth just happens to come along at this time, and makes more sense if TV created him. It's not as though he isn't capable of it.