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Also, as of right now we have 52 characters.

Thinking of starting tournament on Friday. Nominations would probably end Wednesday, and I'd reveal the bracket (whether or not it's teams or singles is undecided) on Thursday. Matches would last about a day, and I'll try and notify you all if I'll be unable to update the standings for whatever reason. For the story so far we have this: Some being brings our favorite characters to duke it out in a cosmic tournament. Hoid may or may not be involved. Upon defeat, a character is returned to their world with no memories of the tournament. Any further ideas are welcomed with open arms. I'd also like to figure out if there will be teams or not. If not, we'll take the top 32 nominations, and if there is a tie for the final few spots, I'll randomly select who goes on. If we do teams, I'll probably do something to where the top character (Marsh as of this moment) gets paired with the sixty-fourth character, and so on and so on. Or teams could be randomized as well. Just lemme know what you think!

Nightblood at least has a unique personality and a means of fighting off opponents. Stick doesn't really have either. Lord Ruler x2 Susebron x1 Vin x1 Tensoon x1

It's not so much that doing teams would be to much work, more so having some people be on teams and some characters aren't. I should be able to have 32 teams of 2 just fine!

All caught up! Few things I'd like some feedback on: First and perhaps most important: When do y'all want to start? How many more nomination days should we have? Should Stick really be included? I get that it's a popular joke and all, but it's not even really a character. But hey, if you all want it in who am I to say no 32, 64, or 64 with teams of two? I've seen people say their desire for all three. My problem with having some characters on teams (characters that aren't super powerful could be on a team, while tanks like Vin and Kaladin will fly solo) is that it would be hell to plan out. I've seen some people want to write up their versions on how these battles go down, and that's super cool! A few people did that last year and it was always fun to read! And with that, my nominations for the day: Wayne x3 TenSoon x1 Susebron x1

What Calypso said. I'll try and have the nominations updated somewhat soon.

Sorry it took me awhile to get these updated, pretty sure I got them all. If anyone notices any mistakes, let me know! I'll go ahead and throw in my own votes: Vin x2 TenSoon x1 Lord Ruler x2 Edit: Also as of right now, we have 42 or 43 characters, if I've counted correctly and assuming we're including everyone so far, barring maybe Hoid.

Did we get a name of said villain?

Really? I'm going to assume he asked you not to share information about it to the public, but was it interesting?

He's a villainous Manta Ray who dons a blue speedo, wears a helmet even though he has no head, and is very ticklish. What's not to love?

Sounds good. And I actually really like the idea of Hoid as a cameo appearance if we weave a story into this. Of course I don't want to do this if everybody else wants him in the tournament, but the idea certainly has merit!

Nah, you don't need to give reasons for nominations. Just when the tournament rounds actually start. We can use the latest version of Marsh. And you can choose to see it as a fight if you want. Many vote on who would win in a fight, and some just vote for whoever we like more. Personally I like voting on who I think would win in a fight, but either choice is fine! So where do we draw the line for OP characters? Would Marsh or The Lord Ruler be OP? Shards are definitely out, but what about High Epics? I'm also hesitant to include Hoid, as we simply don't know enough about what his powers are to judge him fairly.

I had forgotten that there was an artist named Man Ray, and when I saw your opened tabs I thought you were looking up information and pictures of this guy:

Don't worry, if you're giving your opinion on why you like a character, I don't think you can be wrong! And the explanations don't have to be long. "I like Adolin Because *reason*". But if this an unpopular rule, I'll take it out! Would Hoid and High Epics like Obliteration be OP? I've included them for now, but I'm personally fine with them being in.

Hurt Cody, Heal Leeds 3. Cody--23 9. Joel--26 10. Melody--27 17. Stephen Leeds--24

That's right. Everybody can vote once a day until a few days before the tournament starts, and you'll be given notice when that is. I'm thinking a week or two.

So with the renewed interest in the Great Sanderson Tournament, I went ahead and started this thread. The purpose of this is to figure out what changes, if any, should be made to the tournament rules this year. I'd really like to hear what you guys think, as well as see how much interest there is in doing this again. Perhaps the most important topic that needs to be addressed is that of which characters will be in the tournament this year, and how many. Last year was 32, and I feel like that's a pretty solid number, but if people want to bump it up to 64, I'd be OK with that. I will say that 64 characters will take a long time to finish. The top four finishers last year were Vin, Dalinar, Kelsier, and Vasher. These are four very popular characters, and I think it's safe to assume that they could make it pretty far again. In order to avoid a similar end, we could ban them, although if we had more characters they would probably be necessary. I personally think we should keep them in, but let me know what y'all think! One more thing that relates to characters is that of those who could be considered OP. Out of the characters last year, only a few were truly OP, and out of those, only Obliteration and Hoid advanced at all. We should figure out is OP characters should be allowed, and what exactly constitutes them being OP. There are a few new ideas and rules that I want to be discussed. Last year you could vote on a character based on which of the two you liked most, or who you think would win in a fight. I'm still perfectly fine with that format, but one of the main purposes of this was to start discussions, and that was lacking last year. Instead of saying why someone was a better character or why someone would win in a fight, people would put the name of the character as their vote, and that was it. I'd like that to change. When you vote, I'd like you to provide an explanation, even a short one, of why you're voting for that character. If you just put the name of the character, your vote will not count. It was a shame to see Vin and Dalinar go against each other and have so little discussion of who would win in an actual fight. What do you guys think of this? Darkness Ascendant had the idea of incorporating a story into this tournament, something similar to the Hunger Games or Contest of Champions, and I really like this idea. I think it could make the tournament a lot more fun, something more than just a debate on who would win in a fight or who's a better character. Let me know what y'all think about this! Last year after the tournament concluded, the possibility of having teams was discussed. I think this could be a good way of fitting in more characters while still having 32 spots. It could be teams of two. That being said, if characters such as Harmony and Honor, or even Vin and Dalinar were on a team together, it'd be pretty hard for them to be beat. The teams could be randomized, but the possibility of OP teams would still be there. Should the nomination process work the same as it did last year? For those of you who didn't do this last year, you nominated a character to be in the tournament by voting for them. You had five votes every day, and you could spread those votes however you wish (You could nominate one character five times, five characters one time, etc). Those with the most nominations were entered into the tournament. If we decide to go with 64 characters, perhaps the number of votes you have each day could be increased. So this is everything I could think of off the top of my head, but I'm sure I've missed something. If you have anything to add, please feel free to do so! And if you guys decide the system of nominating characters is fine as is, I suppose we could just do that here. I'll keep track of what characters of how many nominations. Let me know what you think! Current nominations:

Heal Stephen, hurt Joel. 3. Cody--22 9. Joel--26 10. Melody--28 17. Stephen Leeds--24

The number of characters is definitely something we should figure out. Last year we had 32, and I feel like that was a very good number, but I'd be perfectly fine having more, it would just take a lot longer. I suppose I can make the discussion thread later today, since interest seems to have been renewed, but we'll have to discuss whether or not some of the top finishers last year (Vin, Dalinar) should return to possibly prevent a repetitive finish, and whether or not OP characters (High Epics, Shards, maybe Hoid) should be included or not. I'm also really happy you brought up the topic of throwing an actual story in, because I had wanted to do something like that. I like the Contest of Champions idea, of a higher being manipulating them into fighting each other in a cosmic tournament of sorts. And I'm open to other suggestions as well, like I said I'll start the new thread soon, and we can discuss an rules or changes there.

Yep! I was planning on starting up an interest thread sometime mid September just to see how many people are interested in doing this again, and we could probably figure out what characters are going to be in it there as well. Thanks for the reminder!

Heal Leeds, Hurt Megan 2. Megan--1 3. Cody--21 9. Joel--27 10. Melody--28 17. Stephen Leeds--23

You mean something like this?

Heal Leeds, Hurt Megan 2. Megan-5 3. Cody--15 9. Joel--26 10. Melody--24 17. Stephen Leeds--30

So in one of my classes I've had to read a bit about Gilgamesh and Hammurabi, and I've had fun just reading through some of Hammurabi's laws. This guy was hardcore. One of his laws was: "If a builder build a house for a man and do not make its construction firm, and the house which he has built collapse and cause the death of the owner of the house, that builder shall be put to death." Talk about an incentive to do your job right.

Hurt Megan, Heal Leeds 2. Megan-5 3. Cody--14 9. Joel--24 10. Melody--24 17. Stephen Leeds--33