Burnt Spaghetti

Would that clear you? I mean generally the nks do seem to be good so far id say but that doesnt mean that the elims dont panic cause of the blast mask and actually the nks are them nuking themselves to be safe from the incriminating ratio. So not certain on that. Whats your argument for soft clearing? Would that also apply to me? Or is it a you specific thing (#needspoints) --- Cindra walked carefully, following Kierans advice. Her eyes watched thistle as they moved. With the return of Ap things seemed to be better. Amoras confidence never seemed to waver. Cindra admired this. The others too. Everyone seemed to be facing their own struggle amidst this chaos yet somehow they all kept moving forwards. She supposed they had little choice in the matter. What even were they going up against? Did anyone actually know? There were all those stories, but none of this was really the same as the legend. Not so much pleasant puzzles getting solved as ruthless and stubborn brute force.

Well, what do we think. Different set of dead players today. No overlap i believe. I would be very surprised if there weren't any dead elims. What do we think the chances are that they nk'd one of their own this round? I feel decent about our exes but it's hard to be sure --- Why was today full of so many explosions. Cindras ears felt like they were permanently ringing by this stage with everything that kept detonating around them and her hands stung with the cold of the ice. It would be really nice to have a day of things staying intact. She also missed the hot spring. She looked around at the others, studying the faces that were still standing. If this was like before, this would be the last night before being reset again. There were some faces who were the same a last, some that hadn't been there for the fight last time. Hopefully this will go better...

Boom Seconding mist

I genuinely dont know here. Ngl they feel about the same to me. Theyre both in the category of i'm happy for one to go. Coco has the rupee benefit. Coco i think could reach silver, stick could not. It would be good to have silvers in play, noting that even if an evil gets it, a villager could clown mask it off them potentially. We dont have any rich confirmed villagers do we? Cause if we have confirmeds who could at some point afford to steal masks, i think thats absolutely what should happen. i guess theres also a hope that if coco is a rich villager like myself, one of us is prolly more likely to be nkéd - going to be raising a brow if a richy doesnt die tbh Currently stick dies. Tbh i think i'm okay with that. Ngl theres an element of, one hand feel bad exeing stick with everything going on, but other hand, if we test her now, if things get worse for them, at least we've exed while able to get responses. Coco we can more actively interrogate. And if we don't want them to be able to rupee, they can be D1 potentially. So no, i'm not going to intervene, but i will solidify Stick

Ngl i feel that. We need to win, if we don't we will be relying on the tie breaker. however. if we lose, our chances of actually guaranteeing we know who is evil is much higher and makes it all that much more likely that we win the tie breaker. Only having 5 players to sift through to find 3 elims sounds amazing to me. We guarantee one elim is dead, and very likely have two dead. Though. If we lose a second loop, that means the elims have won two. That means they dont need to play nice next loop and can pull out all stops to force the win. The way i see it, in a way its a WIN win for us? Great for us to actually win the loop, but not actually a loss if we dont? Thinking about when playing resistance/avalon - in one of the modes, theres a villager who knows all the elims alignments. at the end of the game, team evil gets one chance to eliminate the player who had the knowledge. If village wins, but that player was too obvious, then they will ultimately still lose. This is something i'm looking out for. Cause we've already lost once, we must play perfectly. Perfectly is hard. Guaranteeing we know who at least one of them is by the end of loop 4? That seems significantly more achievable. Does make me wonder though - its been pretty clear that the bomb will be exploded. have they been premptively bussing with that in mind? I honestly really do think we will be winning this loop, whether by our doing or their idk, but i'd be very surprised if we have a boom and still lose cause of that math. Hello, i exist today kinda. I'm only really tracking rupees when it comes relevant - like checking if i'll win a tie with Dive for example. I'd intented to try track properly, but have been mostly giving up on that. Its a lot of effort and i've not really done it this loop much at all. We're pretty much always going to have blues and reds in play, with the occasional purple so i kinda didn't see use in trying to guess what we need to be worried of the elims having access to . Its going to be pretty consistent, and its going to be the same players who maxed loop 1 that will probably keep maxing, so i'm instead just looking at it like "these people talk a lot so they probably richer" rather than going "this person did x posts and x rp therefor they are xx loaded". I'm just trying to maintain my own streak lol xD if i maintain the streak, and dont pm anymore, i could possibly reach silver for loop 4, but thats relying on me posting crazily D1 loop 4 and going for a night purchase. But thats again, i pretty much have to not pm anymore for that, so it hadn't really been a goal for me originally, even though i realise now it could be. Actually i think if the pms had gone through earlier this loop i'd have been blocked from getting silver entirely I do apologize tho - focusing on maintaining the rupee max means im spending end of thread time just stressing about hitting the count rather than being a helpful discussion member >.> --- Other thoughts. Archer to me just consistently reads village. I tend to feel their posts feel genuine, and i like the want to boom. It only benefits us. The only way for the boom to not screw the elims over, is for them to make sure they lose the loop. So it being actively in play either means we win the loop with them probably bussing themselves to avoid the alternative, the aforementioned incriminating ratio of villagers to elims in the living pool. Its just bad for them entirely and only good for us. Sure it would be better if the boom hit an elim. But still. I like that Archer wants this to happen. I like that araris wants this to happen. This gives me good vibes on this. I like that Mistfallen wanted to pm spam to set of pms, Doc was willing to help too. Iirc i think it was primarily wonko who had been against this? I've not checked back in a minute so if there were others, i'd love to know. I dont have thoughts on twinstorm. Its hard to. They've not been here long and hoid wasn't here so much either. I raise a brow at the lack of hael Theres coco whos been very active in exe trains. A strong potential for someone who is trying to contole the exes, but also iirc shes been fairly early on the trains? So idk there, but in a way i feel like they fall into similar category as wonko archer mist did, where we are cautious of the super talky and involveds. Theres stick. Can yall remind me why stick was sus? Was it votes or vibes? And theres the confirmed. So out of the currently alives. Theres people i am liking rn. And then the rest are twinstorm, hael, coco and stick. That would be a good potential argument for trying to get them in the dead pool then? Make sure that if we do lose the loop, the people we have left alive are much easier to discuss and decide on?

Do the voices have reasons?

Slowly more of them joined the group following the fairy. It was cold. They were miserable. Shaken from witnessing so many disasters after disasters. Cindra faked confidence as she walked behind the fairy, fingers fidgeting with her flute as she desperately tried to remember the tune Ap had played before. She longed for the sun to rise, she longed to be able to properly rest without more things going on. She was so tired. But they didnt have time. Why couldn't they just have more time? Eyes to the horizon, she only felt dreadful. (Thank you guys for posting im in your debt )

Thank you Okay also @Archer as much as i love the vote of confidence cause monies, do you think its better for us to buy 50 rupee masks next loop or try save for a silver? Since we lost loop 1 we have to play to loop 4, silvers might be what wins or loses that one. I agree making sure village gets invicibility is important and so that mask should be gone for, so I guess we try to only go for that one...? So that some of us might be able to afford silver by loop 4? ------ Cindra paused. She looked back at Kieran with a bemused expression. "...friend... Ap was on a floating island that just got blown up. They are probably at the bottom of this ravine. As our new friend here said, no point rescuing a corpse. That being said. Ap went down, a fairy came up. So im choosing to believe that whatever has happened to Ap, maybe they or something else has sent us this fairy to follow in Aps stead. As much as I long to try recover ap and the ocarina, we have to keep moving, and i dont think we should keep a fairy waiting"

I dont think im hitting rupee cap today got a wedding im attending in a few hours and im frantically trying to finish sewing a dress and my overlooked is giving me all sorts of grief. Whelp lets see how this goes. So much mask claims. We want that going off regardless of who its it right? To make the numbers better for narrowing down whos evil? Idk what to think about the claiming. Its weird, could be good could be bad, either way if true then possible good that we didnt exe so it can go boom. ----- Today was a day of things she didnt understand it seemed. Cindra yelped as she was suddenly pulled back onto the ledge, coliver coming with her. Who..? Wait actually who was that? It was someone she didnt recognise. "Oh! Thank you. I... its not so much the corpse but what she had on her. Her ocarina... her music... huh?" The fairy arrived, circling above. It was beautiful in its soft green radiance. It wanted them to follow. She looked to Thistle again. Thistle had stood and begun to move. And so Cindra did too. She went to Thistles side. "Hey. If theres a great fairy here, then we have hope once again. In the stories, the hero always survived no matter how improbable. Time for us to have faith i think" she smiled an attempt at reassurance. To herself or to Thistle, she didnt know. In reality she was terrified, blindly following whoever seemed the most responsible. Which right now was a fairy. ---- Quick someone post so i can spam thread

I don't know if her standard issue flute will have the same magical results, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try? --- Cindra stood in silence, mouth partly agape in shock. She watched as Amora held the distraught Thistle. She watched as the fragments glistened as they fell. She watched as she felt her knees impact with the snow. What was going on? She didn't understand. This wasn't allowed to be an option. Ap was the one who made sure they got another chance. Was it all just... done? Game over? No more chances? That ocarina was what let them go back. That ocarina... it was magical, surely... could it have survived? She glanced at the flute in her pocket. She played tunes all the time, there's no way that old thing had any magic in it. Its just a flute. But maybe... could she play the ocarina? Its just another wind instrument, surely she'd be able to figure out the notes by ear pretty quickly. She really hoped that maybe Ap had survived the fall, as improbably as it was, Ap was also not just another person. Cindra had to hope. Feeling some resolution she stood back up and moved closer to the edge to get a better look. She saw Coliver doing the same. "I'm not much of a climber... but.. I'll go with you. We have to try." Cindra saw others agreeing with this and others began making their descent. She glanced back at Thistle and hesitated. Her herbs. If Ap had survived...

The water felt luxurious. But also wrong. It was a relief to relax a little, to clean up after the walk, to clean the scrapes and cuts from the explosions. But how could she relax with all this going on? Cindra looked to her flute, sitting on a rock nearby with the rest of her pack. The idea of playing music while relaxing in the waters sounded dreamlike to her, yet she found herself unwilling to do so. The wrongness of not understanding what was going on, of feeling like there was disaster still hidden. Last time they'd been attacked. Surely they weren't safe this time either. The stick she had picked up on the road, she had broken off the twigs to make it a big smoother. It had functions as a bit of a walking stick, but more than anything, she didn't want to be unarmed anymore. She had added some of the more decorative flowers she had to it though. It wasn't as pretty as what she was sure Thistle would be able to pull off, but it was a splash of whimsy that served as a pleasant distraction.

I do find it interesting how there were so many voting me and voicing suspicions, but then not getting the same thing today, its been some different players, some overlap, but yeah. I don't really know how to respond to this, i'm not sure i've been given much to respond to? /shrug I can't decide if this feels more like confused villagers voting me or elims looking for potential easy vote targets to distract from others. Its been mostly the same names in circulation pretty much every day it feels. Makes me feel like there's definitely elims who are being discussed and scrutinized. So I feel like we're on the right track? But also don't know if we got it right or got successfully distracted. Are there any combinations of players we currently think it would be extremely unlikely to not have an elim in the mix? Are these comparable for common factors? ____ was about to rp but rp to come later i got busy

I thought there was no loop 5 anyway. Loop 4 just gets another day. Hence no revives So fd was never possible

Wahr, Doc, Archer, Wonko, Ashbringer

my pms No rupees were lost so I have to assume they didn't go through at all. Rip To be fair, this could be wonko being post and dying, or could be the postmaster looking at the blast discussion and hard nopeing out. We will only know if it opens back up again or not

oh no... if only there was someone who had been openly farming rupees for pms who loves to pm people...

Do i need the rupees from completing my streak of maxing cycles? Probably not if im going to die soon. But hey. Its like Duolingo - as soon as you break your streak, firstly there's going to be an angry owl, but secondly its harder to restart. So one more rp post --- Cindra smiled as Thistle offered the pepper. She really did have a plant for everything. "Thank you. Cooked on skewers sounds absolutely amazing. I'll try save some for that. " She took a small nibble of the pepper. It certainly helped a little, though flavour wise was a bit much on its own, but the heat certainly helped her not notice the chill as much. She knew that they needed to get somewhere, but also, its night. And its cold. And where they are going is cold. Its just going to be cold. She didn't know where they would be resting this night, but its only going to get colder. Maybe they'll have somewhere to stay like they did at the deku palace. But tonight... Looking ahead at the road, she only saw sleeping on the road in her future unless they never stop moving. She saw Amora approach Thistle. Cindra was glad to see Thistle had so many people surrounding and keeping an eye on her, in all that was going on, it relieved her to see the care the survivors had for each other. She remembered more clearly now the final day and thistles struggles. They needed Thistle. And they needed her to be okay.

mostly just interested in seeing what happens, and if i die i get dead doc and if we win then i've been able to talk to elims in the dead doc and will have actual read info to go off, so. eh? I had no mask so didn't make a difference in that regard if i died and lost that. I mean i had mild self pres? I was paying attention to post counts so did try and make sure i had a bunch so that if i hit tie i had a better chance. But yeah, ultimately, for my play style, being able to talk to potential elims in docs or pms is my element. And pms are not really coming my way so far, so the docs my best chance. Its one of those things where, I realise me dying doesn't help village win, but for me personally, theres benefit to me dying vs another villager. As it happens i was a little sus of divergent from voting patterns so I didn't mind them dying, but also as i said last cycle, i had no strong feelings about anyones alignment. So I just put my trust in yall to be better at reading things than me >.> I have mixed feelings. Feeling 1 - me dying bad, that mean not elim dead. Feeling 2 - But that means i have a doc to chatter in. Feeling 3 - from a not me perspective, it makes sense to kill me next. Given the sheer and absolute chaos of that last cycle, i would be stunned if both dive and me were both village. Because the heck was that. I cant imagine elims being so wild about the votes if we are both good, that seems much more like a village struggling with indecision. The only thing is, with the neutral 3rd party hat on, i also dont see a world where both dive and me are evil. Obvs im not evil, but again, neutral outside party hat looking in here - if theres an elim, the votes were too hot for me to think all the exe trains were on evils. So. If we are confident in the dive vote, and we assume only one of us is evil, is it then a waste of an exe to make sure we got one? Does mean we need to shoot perfect day 3. Yeah, if dives good it would make sense to exe me, then either way you probably have one elim dead, so either way, day 3 must be perfect. But with so many masks in play, i'm sure we're bound to hit something. Don gero, scents, role blocks, blasts. I will be again stunned if we dont find a elim with one of those this loop. With these all in play, I honestly feel that regardless of the result of this loop we are going to know who to kill moving forwards for sure. Also the contrast lol. You want my head while our characters are being besties ____ Ap was okay. Thistles herbs were secured. They were out. This was something. Cindra had filled her pockets with some of what didn't fit in Thistles bags. There had been less panic and more purpose, and Cindra felt that this was good. But now there were off again. Northwards. Away from the flames into the cold. I'm going to miss my fluffy blanket so much... Cindra missed her bed. By the nature of when the loop reset, she had already been out and about. She hadn't gotten to go back to her home. And again she didn't know what her use would be in this trip. She played music. She had good breath control from the flute, so maybe she should invest in a blow pipe or something? Her arms had some strength from having to maintain good posture and the flute raised for long periods of time so that was something too. As they walked, she paused and picked up a largish stick. Best be prepared incase they get attacked on the road again she thought.

Cindra's ears were ringing, and her body felt like it was on fire. Fire! The manor!! She bolted upright, which she regretted the speed of as she immediately felt dizzy and made her realize how sore everything was. The Manor. No.. the town! The flames were back, the screams were back. That acrid smell of smoke was back. Dammit... why did it happen sooner?? She looked around her, where were the others? Ah... No! She saw the other two also knocked down. AP looked unconscious, but Thistle was moving, also picking themselves up. She stumbled over to AP, eyes wildly checking for a response as she shook her shoulder. "Thistle, are you okay to move on your own? I think AP is hurt! Do you have anything that can help?" She jumped as rubble fell behind her and as she looked she saw a Goron figure pushing himself out of it. Someone survived all that?? I know Gorons are tough, but still! "It's happened again, goro. Do you remember? The masked people - they... the Commander is dead. We need to go!" Cindra closed her eyes. The commander. The one who had gotten them all out in the first place, who had lead and kept them safe. This was bad. "We remember, kinda. Foggy but yes." She looked back at Ap. "Without the commander... We need Ap. We must make sure Ap is okay. We must make sure she gets out of this. You... You fought right? Can you protect her?" She wanted to say 'us' but she knew in her heart that she hadn't been of much help. The others around her had made significant differences. But they were nothing without the ocarinas songs. She turned back to Ap desperately hoping to see signs of her stirring. @Doc12 @Amanuensis

Well that was an interesting day. Purple Pancake Party More so if you have blast, maybe don't have it active during the day? Equip during the night only to avoid accidental explosions. Unless thats what you want, in which case, time to play Pm minesweeper and hope to not message the wrong person.

Im bemused by today's events ngl so many minds being swapped the whole cycle

It really just comes down to i only had mild reads on people, it didnt feel confident in any of my reads. I typically try not to vote on someone unless I can put some amount of reasoning behind it, unless its more of a poke vote. Also doesn't help when my strongest suspicions simultaneously read village to me. Like mist for example, their behaviour makes me sus, but also their actions read village to me. So while I feel I have good reason, the vibes are wrong. So I dont vote because im conflicted I can see the elims wanting to see what's in the dead doc, but id have thought captains would be the way to go personally. Im happy to go because I can have much easier conversation there (i know im an older player but ive never liked being vocal in thread >.> its harder for me to vibe check carefully written posts vs more relaxed chatter), plus I know theres a bunch of people here who will permanently be suspicious of me, so while I know it realistically doesn't benefit anyone for me to die so I can get a doc, if it means im more in my element and the people who dont trust me can get a chance to see im fine then great, just yall better send elims my way to chat to :P Ohh i missed that. Then yeah that's fair. --- Cindra loved being in Thistles flower shop. It always smelt absolutely divine. As she looked around, she shuddered slightly as she remembered how Thistle had so frantically packed up everything. She would have to have used up pretty much everything by the end... A gorgeous boquet used for its abilities rather than beauty. She browsed the flowers, pausing by the Violets and safffinas, hand drifting to where they had stayed crumpled in her pocket in that... dream I guess? She sat back down in the chair Thistle had showed her to. This all just felt wrong. But she smiled anyway.

Mist had me thinking re rupee counts so I was looking through some. For some reason idk how to tag them but tj what's up with the radio silence

Rude Now i dont know whether i should not vote out of spite or jump back on a train. You volunteering? Though ngl if i was jumping back on, id still be okay with mist dive or you as options, theres some concerns with all of you as it is as far as voting patterns and behaviours. I still think wonko's fine though. I could jump on my own, would that work? look decision making has never been my strong suit, especially when exe's are concerned okay xD I don't have strong feelings about anything >.>

huh? Didn't you say you bought a red mask? Shouldn't you like, be one of the poorer players around right now?