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3 hours ago, Chaos said:

I see your point, for sure. We didn't really have someone to truly represent that side who had sufficient microphone quality and a schedule that allowed. I'd prefer this podcast to exist than infinitely delay it to find the correct person, who would also have a good rapport with us. It certainly would've been easier if one of our staff had that point of view! I do see your point, but there are production considerations. Inviting a random forumgoer might not work well as they may not have the rapport, speaking skills, microphone to be a good guest. 

Yes. Absolutely, that would be a challenge. You don't want a podcast to devolve into something ugly because you had to seek out someone who you couldn't "vet" appropriately before hand. It's certainly not an easy solution to do in a timely fashion, and I get that. 

At least from my end, your efforts to give the Shalladin arguments a fair shake are appreciated. However regardless of good intentions, arguments made for a viewpoint you don't share will usually fall short (something I always struggled with when required in debate to take such viewpoints counter to my own beliefs). 

Hopefully I'll find some time in the near future to give it another listen, take notes, and come up with points I can concede and others to rebut. 

Otherwise, well produced podcast, thanks for getting it out there, and thanks for putting up with us over in the "thread that won't die" (you know the one )

Perhaps a better approach would have been to actually include someone who had, I don't know, a differing viewpoint and take on the triangle than those involved in the making of this cast? Upon listening, my conclusion to what I heard was that there were several people who came into this podcast with an already agreed upon conclusion, and they collectively tried to guess or anticipate what the opposing side's argument would be, and collectively worked to refute an argument none of them actively subscribed to in the first place. If you can't escape your bias when going into a discussion on a topic, the solution isn't to wave your hand and say "well there's nothing we can do about that, so bear with us". The solution is to introduce people with the opposite bias and opinion to the discussion, so that they may argue their own viewpoint. 

Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of great content and discussion going on here. But I do find the sincerity around your attempt to be "fair and balanced" suspect when you don't have anyone speaking for the opposing viewpoint represented.