Steeldancer he/him Posted July 22, 2021 Author Posted July 22, 2021 @Opal Lion your reasoning is correct. If one roleless elim asked for the same gem as 5 villagers with forms, the elim would get it.
Magenta Albatross Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Sorry, Swan. Is white text still trendy? 17 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: I would write this off except for that I'm pretty sure this is your only post, and in it you only referred to Azure as Azure and Tuatara as Tuatara. You never mentioned Ostrich or Opal in the thread. Perhaps in a doc? I know that's kind of ridiculous but it's still something I noticed. That's a good point, but you know they couldve just been referring to how they spoke in their previous anon games maybe. 17 hours ago, Opal Lion said: I'm licking the wall in my pfp It's an adorable yawn is what it is. 14 hours ago, Amber Vulture said: 13/19 players voted, which is above average. Well done. Crazy what people will do for warform 14 hours ago, Charcoal Hyena said: Does that make sense? I'm uncertain if I explained my reasoning well enough. But, I think it could be useful to have 2 people claim if they went after each type of gemstone and failed to get it. It doesn't reveal who did get gemstones, and it helps us plan around the Elim's abilities. We would need to have a decent portion of people agree on this plan of action before we start following it though I think it really depends on what 'priority' given to villagers entails exactly. If it's absolute priority, then if we get, say, a villager claiming to have been denied warform, we will know for sure that anybody that survives a kill/exe has to be a villager. (Cant be mavset-im either because the player would lose their previous form.) 10 hours ago, Mint Heron said: And even if you just say that you didn't grab a gemstone, that lets the spies know that they can avoid you and go after other people instead who might actually be threats to them Exactly, and it would kind of defeat the whole purpose of the village having warform in the first place... 9 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Steel clarified somewhere that the village having priority isn't absolute. He said that villagers would simply have a higher percent chance of being the one to grab the gem, though he didn't say what those percentages were. Oh. Well then I see no reason to reveal whether anybody did or did not receive a gem
Onyx Flamingo Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, Magenta Albatross said: I think it really depends on what 'priority' given to villagers entails exactly. This has been clarified. It's not absolute priority, but the percentages are weighted towards villagers.
Opal Lion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Onyx Flamingo said: This has been clarified. It's not absolute priority, but the percentages are weighted towards villagers. Properly speaking, yeah, and then it gets exciting when there are roleless involved since those receive absolute priority. But that shouldn't come into play until tomorrow.
Onyx Flamingo Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 I seriously need to start actually reading things. Sorry for adding what's already been added.
Plum Rhinoceros Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 My reads of note: Vulture- Village. We are on a similar wavelength in multiple things and I don't recall ever thinking one of their points was strange or off. Scorpion- Null. Ordinarily a null wouldn't warrant a spot in the reads of note, but since it is of popular opinion that Scorpion's behavior is suspicious I find it important to disagree. To me their reaction was what I would consider normal, or at least normal enough not to think much of it. Tuatara- Null Plus. I stand by my earlier thinking that Tuatara as elim would not have posted such a controversial analysis. I agree, though, that their kill would help us narrow down where the elims could have been voting last cycle, and if people want to go more the info route and do this I wouldn't be entirely opposed. Albatross- Slight elim. I did back up on them earlier for a specific post from early D1- I don't remember exactly which one but I probably could find it again if I looked. But it made me reconsider my elim read, and then I reconsidered my reconsidering. A slight read but one that still exists and shouldn't vanish because of a single line, I think. This one is highly tentative but I suppose is also my guess for the elim on Swan's train, if there was one. Dingo- Elim. Subtly slid in a village-damaging idea in the middle of an otherwise good analysis of the rules. Pointedly tunneling on me for no apparent reason, with less than convincing arguments backing them. Lion- Village? Uncertain. It is... always uncertain with this player.
Opal Lion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Lion- Village? Uncertain. It is... always uncertain with this player. Spoiler Rhino trying very hard not to be Mat I see.
Plum Rhinoceros Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Opal Lion said: Reveal hidden contents Rhino trying very hard not to be Mat I see. Perhaps I'm trying very hard to be Mat.
Opal Lion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Perhaps I'm trying very hard to be Mat. Mat has expressed the opposite of your sentiments, so that's a no from me
Mint Heron Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Amber Vulture said: ~Mint Heron, whose identity is a complete and total mystery. Made a possibly odd comment about posting one OOC post per round. It could be a baddie feeling guilty for not engaging in a suspectable way. [OOC: I am very pleased that my true identity is a complete and total mystery to you, and hopefully many others in this game. As for the OOC thing, as much fun as I’ve been having doing most of my posts in RP form, I still believe that I should interact with the game in a way that is easier for other players to read. I’d rather players have negative reads of me than null reads because all my posts are in RP format and therefore harder to get a read on. It’s always better to get more interactions going on in thread than less. Anyway, my current suspicion short list is Tuatara, Scorpion, Vulture, and maybe Dingo. Also, I’m of the opinion that Lion is so obviously trying to be Kas, that it can’t be Kas. I don’t think Kas would’ve signed up for a game at this point in time, unless he has decided to break retirement right after LG78.]
Opal Lion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mint Heron said: Also, I’m of the opinion that Lion is so obviously trying to be Kas, that it can’t be Kas. I don’t think Kas would’ve signed up for a game at this point in time, unless he has decided to break retirement right after LG78.] Name me another player in the SE playerbase besides Illwei, relying on Chingles, who could use correct Singlish. I'll wait
Steeldancer he/him Posted July 22, 2021 Author Posted July 22, 2021 And the night is over! The day turn will be up soonish.
Steeldancer he/him Posted July 22, 2021 Author Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) LG79/AN10 Day 2: A Tragic Blow Thane huddled behind a rock as the stormwall hit. The wind was intense, as always. He held up the gemstone with the captive spren inside. He started getting into the right mindset to change into workform, then stood up against the gale and smashed the gemstone on the ground. The gravitationspren flew up, and went into his chest, into his gemheart. And his whole body and mind changed. Suddenly his body had additional muscles, and was bulkier. And most importantly, he had clarity of thought now. It was still colored by the non-aggression of Workform, but he could hear the rhythms so much easier now. And then, he went and headed into the cave with the children. Others of them liked staying out in the storm, but not Thane. He had heard of singers being struck by rocks and such even after the stormwall, and he liked to avoid that sort of thing. He hummed to the rhythm of joy, enjoying the feeling of the music sounding in his head, unsullied by dullform. As he walked into the cave, he saw a singer lying on the ground. He crouched down, singing the rhythm of anxiety as he tried to rouse the singer. They didn't move. It looked like their head had been bashed by a rock. His thoughts now clear, he investigated closer, while still respecting the body. Could that kind of blow have come from a highstorm? A small part of him reminded him of the fact that there were too many of them. A traitor might have this. But who? Or was it an accident after all? Either way, the singer wasn't about to be telling anyone, as she was already dead. Thane sung to the rhythm of mourning until the other came over to see what had happened. Pavli acted quickly, and went to distract the children. Thankfully the fallen hadn't had any kids. There were now doubts. How safe would it be to continue? Thane knew they had to continue. There was no turning back now, or the Fused would simply kill them all. Most of the others would not suspect that they had traitors among them, though. Hopefully Moirin would be able to convince them it was worth continuing into Alethela. --- Mauve Crocodile was killed! They were a Dullform Rebel! Village Stash Spoiler Nimbleform Gem- 9 Workform Gem- 9 Mateform Gem- 5 Artform Gem- 5 Mediationform Gem-2 Player List Spoiler 1. Amber Vulture 2. Amethyst Scorpion 3. Azure Mouse 4. Charcoal Hyena 5. Chartreuse Penguin- Elrin 6. Coral Swan Dullform Rebel 7. Cream Tuatara 8. Emerald Falcon 9. Fuchsia Ostrich 10. Indigo Weasel 11. Ivory Dragonfly- Kethri 12. Magenta Albatross 13. Mauve Crocodile Dullform Rebel 14. Melon Dingo 15. Mint Heron- Chashen 16. Onyx Flamingo 17. Opal Lion- Atticus 18. Oxblood Beagle- Jalnor 19. Plum Rhinoceros- Edith The turn will end in about 47 hours, at 12EDT on 7/24/21. Edited July 22, 2021 by Steeldancer 3
Plum Rhinoceros Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Standard low-info kill, can't say I'm surprised. As for the gemstone stash, it looks like the Warform and Scholarform stocks are completely depleted. Nimbleform and Workform both still have 9, which is interesting, I would have expected someone to at least take Workform. Four Mateforms gone, meaning two Mateform PMs. A single Artform gone, that should be fun. No Meditationform gems gone, which is also surprising. That means that 10 gems from the village stash are missing, which is... lower than I would have guessed. Not sure what to make of that.
Amber Vulture Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Nimbleform: no change Workform: no change Mateform: - 4 Warform: - 3 Artform: - 1 Scholarform: - 2 Mediationform: no change So if 13 good guys attempted to take a gem, only three failed. Maybe four or five if some baddies also grabbed gems.
Opal Lion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) Crocodile's gem, if they had one, would've returned to the Village stash. Not sure if we'd be told explicitly that it returned, but I'm guessing not. It's something to keep in mind, though I doubt it'd throw off the numbers substantially. Edit: Let's start this off. Spoiler Light Village With A Dash of Soy Sauce: Ivory Dragonfly Maybe Meh, Maybe Mai Lai Lah: Melon Dingo, Plum Rhino Meh Cream Tuatara, Amethyst Scorpion, Emerald Falcon Of these, I'll go with Amethyst Scorpion first. Given your moderate credence on the Swan train, what's your view of the Tuatara train then? Edited July 22, 2021 by Opal Lion
Amber Vulture Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Opal Lion said: Meh, Maybe Mai Lai Lah I loved that song on the Sound of Music hip hop remix. It was less helpful for learning musical notes though Either some of the most active players are evil, or most are too correct in their suspicions to be viable kills. Here's hoping its the latter. Penguin
Plum Rhinoceros Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 I'll go Dingo for reasons listed previously.
Melon Dingo Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: I'll go Dingo for reasons listed previously. Rhino Also, this sentence: 2 hours ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Standard low-info kill, can't say I'm surprised. This feels to me like saying “good job guys, we caught the elim!” It feels a bit elim-y to me. Edit: @Opal Lion Albatross is also suspicious, but Rhino has had a lot more instances, like the one above, that I thought were AI. Edited July 22, 2021 by Melon Dingo
Plum Rhinoceros Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: This feels to me like saying “good job guys, we caught the elim!” It feels a bit elim-y to me. Now you're tunneling, why am I your top suspicion? Half the reason for that was actually someone else. Was I just supposed to not mention the kill at all? It seems to me like it's far more useful to bring up how I think the kill is specifically low-info, where it doesn't actually have to be- Croc could have been killed for something in PMs, maybe something they said in their single post (though that's unlikely) but it wasn't like I was saying it for the sake of saying it.
Melon Dingo Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Now you're tunneling, why am I your top suspicion? Half the reason for that was actually someone else. Was I just supposed to not mention the kill at all? It seems to me like it's far more useful to bring up how I think the kill is specifically low-info, where it doesn't actually have to be- Croc could have been killed for something in PMs, maybe something they said in their single post (though that's unlikely) but it wasn't like I was saying it for the sake of saying it. You’re my top suspicion for a lot of reasons. You can go back and look at all my posts D1 and N1 to see why. And it wasn’t that you brought up the kill, it’s how you brought it up. It felt like you were just saying it so that you could say something about the kill. And that reads kind of elim-y to me. If you’d said everything in this post in your first one, it wouldn’t have seemed at all suspicious.
Plum Rhinoceros Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: You can go back and look at all my posts D1 and N1 to see why. Yknow what I think I'll do that. All your posts that mention me includes only two so that shouldn't be too hard. Quote Hello everyone! So I just… forgot to post today. I read through some of the thread, and the one person who seems suspicious is Rhino, because of their failures to provide explanation for some of their votes and retractions. Keep in mind that I have not read through the full thread, so there could be something that I missed, but I do know this happened without clarification at least twice. See you tomorrow! I provided explanation many times, much more than you're implying. I stated the times I didn't that I would clarify if anyone asked for it, and no one did. I didn't think it'd be hard to infer the reasons for those votes and retractions anyway. I was not the only one to do this, and am not the one to do it the most. Not stating reasoning just by itself is not suspicious. If I didn't have reasons, it would be, but I do have reasons and had reasons. Quote Heyo! I am still suspicious of Plum Rhino, for the aforementioned things, plus the attack on Swan and their reasoning for that. Didn't attack Swan, this was Ross. Which you acknowledged. Now from today: 38 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: Edit: @Opal Lion Albatross is also suspicious, but Rhino has had a lot more instances, like the one above, that I thought were AI. So to sum, you have one thing. A lot more instances for sure Or maybe not, hmm? Why'd you tag Lion here? 17 minutes ago, Melon Dingo said: You’re my top suspicion for a lot of reasons. You can go back and look at all my posts D1 and N1 to see why. And it wasn’t that you brought up the kill, it’s how you brought it up. It felt like you were just saying it so that you could say something about the kill. And that reads kind of elim-y to me. If you’d said everything in this post in your first one, it wouldn’t have seemed at all suspicious. "For a lot of reasons", or y'know one and a half, but that works too. How else would I have brought up the kill? Me saying all the things from that post in my first one would have been unnatural. I'm not going to state a thought and then explain exactly why I thought that unless someone needs me to, there's no reason to do that. You say that it felt like I was just saying it for the purpose of saying it, except for the post you quoted literally explained how that wasn't the case. Edited July 22, 2021 by Plum Rhinoceros
Opal Lion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Plum Rhinoceros said: Yknow what I think I'll do that. All your posts that mention me includes only two so that shouldn't be too hard. I provided explanation many times, much more than you're implying. I stated the times I didn't that I would clarify if anyone asked for it, and no one did. I didn't think it'd be hard to infer the reasons for those votes and retractions anyway. I was not the only one to do this, and am not the one to do it the most. Not stating reasoning just by itself is not suspicious. If I didn't have reasons, it would be, but I do have reasons and had reasons. Didn't attack Swan, this was Ross. Which you acknowledged. Now from today: So to sum, you have one thing. A lot more instances for sure Or maybe not, hmm? Why'd you tag Lion here? "For a lot of reasons", or y'know one and a half, but that works too. How else would I have brought up the kill? Me saying all the things from that post in my first one would have been unnatural. I'm not going to state a thought and then explain exactly why I thought that unless someone needs me to, there's no reason to do that. You say that it felt like I was just saying it for the purpose of saying it, except for the post you quoted literally explained how that wasn't the case. Hard to fix quote on mobile but in essence, I nudged Dingo last Night. Said that since what he said was a major suspicion of you was actually a post from Ross, have his views shifted. Evidently not. Would link but it's just two pages long so not that hard to locate. On p2 of the thread.
Amethyst Scorpion Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 4 hours ago, Opal Lion said: Of these, I'll go with Amethyst Scorpion first. Given your moderate credence on the Swan train, what's your view of the Tuatara train then? I thought the Tuatara train was ill-advised as I stated multiple times, but could see why it happened. I just didn’t feel like joining. I’m annoyed that some people are getting suspicious of me for my reaction to the train on my RNG poke vote. Poke votes aren’t meant to start trains. Especially ones in which those joining give zero reasoning. I was right to be suspicious. I have to consider who to vote for this cycle. I’ve got a lot to think on.
Mauve Crocodile Posted July 22, 2021 Posted July 22, 2021 Rieta had gotten her gemstone. Joy thrummed softly inside her. She would break it later. After she had another one. She would like a lifespren.
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