Dakaladin Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 Not sure if this belongs in this thread or if it should have a spoiler box since it relates to Wax and Wayne books so I’ll just put the question in a spoiler box. Spoiler We know hoid is bonded to a spren making him a radiant and we also know that radiant a can’t leave Roshar. However we also know that Hoid gives Wax the coppermind coin at the end of The Bands of Mourning which takes place after book 5 of SLA. So how was he able to travel between planets if he’s radiant? Is it just special Hoid powers or did he discover the answer to what Kelsier is trying to solve? Maybe this will be answered by the end of book 5 but figured I’d ask here to see what theories you all have 3
Leuthie Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 Do you think Hoid holds his Oaths to be more important than his Quest? When he needs to leave, if he hasn't found a way to get Design off-world, he will break Oaths and leave. "He will watch Roshar burn if he has to".
KSub Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 Good question. It's possible to transfer a bond, so Hoid may have simply give Designs bond to someone else. Or it could just be that Hoid already knows the how of it.
Dakaladin Posted February 2, 2021 Author Posted February 2, 2021 I’m guessing the reason will be explained in book 5. However part of me wonders if it’s a continuity thing that got messed up when he changed the timeline of Mistborn era 2 to happen after SA 5
AquaRegia he/him Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 Forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do we know that Radiants can't leave Roshar?
Dakaladin Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 Just now, AquaRegia said: Forgive my ignorance, but how exactly do we know that Radiants can't leave Roshar? Mraize tells shallan that in part 1 of ROW
AquaRegia he/him Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 Thanks. I found the conversation (ch. 13). In the space of half a page, he says 1) "Investiture is bound to it's home planet"; 2) "Radiants and spren Connected to Roshar are bound by the same laws"; and 3) "I have unlocked the secret to the Connection problem." One could interpret these statements as "Radiants are trapped on Roshar NOW... but once I carry out my plan, they won't be any longer." MB Era 2 spoilers inside Spoiler Feruchemy allows for storage of both Connection and Investiture; in tBoM we see unkeyed metalminds, usable by anyone. How did the Southern Scadrians learn how to make such things? Their Soveriegn showed them. Why? BECAUSE HE NEEDS THEM TO GET OFF SCADRIAL.
Dakaladin Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 I wonder if he tried to use those but started experiencing what happened to Jezrien and gave up on that route.
KSub Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, Dakaladin said: I wonder if he tried to use those but started experiencing what happened to Jezrien and gave up on that route. Do you mean Kalak?
Dakaladin Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, KSub said: Do you mean Kalak? Spoiler I mean Kelsier
Kingsdaughter613 she/her Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, AquaRegia said: Thanks. I found the conversation (ch. 13). In the space of half a page, he says 1) "Investiture is bound to it's home planet"; 2) "Radiants and spren Connected to Roshar are bound by the same laws"; and 3) "I have unlocked the secret to the Connection problem." One could interpret these statements as "Radiants are trapped on Roshar NOW... but once I carry out my plan, they won't be any longer." MB Era 2 spoilers inside Hide contents Feruchemy allows for storage of both Connection and Investiture; in tBoM we see unkeyed metalminds, usable by anyone. How did the Southern Scadrians learn how to make such things? Their Soveriegn showed them. Why? BECAUSE HE NEEDS THEM TO GET OFF SCADRIAL. Actually, Kell only gave the Southerners heat medallions. They figured out the rest on their own after he left.
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