Brgst13 Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 I was just noticing that the number of Nalthis is 5, while Roshar is 10. Awakeners can easily utilize Stormlight, while it is much harder for an Awakener to access Investiture on Scadrial (16). I don't think this is by chance. My theory is that the number of the planet is related to the wavelength of the Investiture on that planet. A type of investiture with twice the number would have half the wavelength, therefore every other wave would coincide and there would be harmonics, allowing it to be used more easily. Note that this theory also suggests that Surgebinders could use Breath easily as well to fuel their Surges. I believe this also ties into the reason Hoid wanted the Moon Scepter. If it can act as a way to alter the wavelength of Investiture (for example by applying a magnetic field in the plane of the waves movement), then it would allow one to access many different forms of Investiture without needing harmonics.
Halyo_Alex he/him Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 41 minutes ago, Brgst13 said: I was just noticing that the number of Nalthis is 5, while Roshar is 10. Awakeners can easily utilize Stormlight, while it is much harder for an Awakener to access Investiture on Scadrial (16). I don't think this is by chance. My theory is that the number of the planet is related to the wavelength of the Investiture on that planet. A type of investiture with twice the number would have half the wavelength, therefore every other wave would coincide and there would be harmonics, allowing it to be used more easily. Note that this theory also suggests that Surgebinders could use Breath easily as well to fuel their Surges. I believe this also ties into the reason Hoid wanted the Moon Scepter. If it can act as a way to alter the wavelength of Investiture (for example by applying a magnetic field in the plane of the waves movement), then it would allow one to access many different forms of Investiture without needing harmonics. Interesting. I believe Taldain has been described as being related to 8 before? Somewhere. I wonder how that would mix with Scadrial's 16-frequency, then. Would the sunlight from the sun of Taldain be usable to fuel Allomancy? A bit like how Vin could burn the mists to fuel her allomancy, but with the light of the sun?
Dancer Posted April 20, 2020 Posted April 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Brgst13 said: I was just noticing that the number of Nalthis is 5, while Roshar is 10. Awakeners can easily utilize Stormlight, while it is much harder for an Awakener to access Investiture on Scadrial (16). I don't think this is by chance. My theory is that the number of the planet is related to the wavelength of the Investiture on that planet. A type of investiture with twice the number would have half the wavelength, therefore every other wave would coincide and there would be harmonics, allowing it to be used more easily. Note that this theory also suggests that Surgebinders could use Breath easily as well to fuel their Surges. I believe this also ties into the reason Hoid wanted the Moon Scepter. If it can act as a way to alter the wavelength of Investiture (for example by applying a magnetic field in the plane of the waves movement), then it would allow one to access many different forms of Investiture without needing harmonics. Unfortunately for you Brandon has now Canonized that anyone can use Breaths to Awaken, you just need the Breaths and the right commands. Also anyone can Surgebind. You just need to attract a Spren. Sand Mastery and Allomancy are difficult as they require that you have the right genetics. Unless you can hack your Spiritweb or use some medallion type tech you won't be able to do either of those. Edit: Here is the relevant WoB Questioner So we know that you can't just have someone-- If someone were to do something similar to Hoid, he can't just pop and go "Oh look, I can now do Allomancy or I can now do Surgebinding". What about Breath? If someone could somebody get Breath-- Maybe not *audio obscured* Could they still get the benefits of-- Brandon Sanderson Oh, good question... Yes you can, actually. Breath is-- Once it is given to you, it is being keyed to you. Your Identity. So that transfer makes it yours to use however you want. Questioner So you could Awaken? Brandon Sanderson You could Awaken. If you-- If you were to somehow make it there, you would be able to Awaken. It's the easiest of magic systems to get the magic from, and then to manipulate. Because it has keyed into it Identity. Questioner *audio obscured* Brandon Sanderson Yes, you can take Breath onto another world. In fact, you've seen characters do this. Questioner *audio obscured* Brandon Sanderson It would work, yes. Questioner *audio obscured* Brandon Sanderson Yes, it would work the same way. The only magic that is location-dependent-- The ones who aren't interested in this, just hum to yourself, okay? *laughter* You don't need to know any of this stuff to enjoy the books, okay? I write them so that you could just-- each series can be read independently, and enjoyed. There is behind the scenes stuff, and if you want to dig, it goes pretty deep. So on Sel, we have AonDor. AonDor is based on the fact that the Dor, which is an amalgamation of Dominion and Devotion, has been pressed together and stuffed into the Cognitive Realm by Odium who didn't want it to gain sentience, as Investiture will do if it is left alone. It will either seek someone to be its Vessel or it will gain sentience. He pressed it in there; he pressed it together, which creates the violent reaction, because those two intents are opposed. And that is the foundation of the magic. Because it's stuck in the Cognitive Realm rather than the Spiritual Realm (the Spiritual Realm is location-independent; Cognitive Realm is location-dependent), it makes the magic on Sel only work in close proximity to what is keyed through there to the location they're keyed to. This has to do with Identity and Connection. Mostly Connection. So that means you can't do AonDor on another planet, but you can do other magics works anywhere, because they're drawing the magics specifically through either the place, or they're end-neutral, like Breath is, and you don't need any extra power. Edited April 20, 2020 by Dancer
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