I think I am here. Posted January 1, 2019 Report Share Posted January 1, 2019 @Darth Woodrack Quote With the end of the Era coming around we should probably finish this quickly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Woodrack Posted January 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Quote Well, since apparently Ark knows more about my characters skill than I do, I don't have a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Quote Everyone else agrees. You are the one person trying to do something never replicated from the mistborn world over a thousand years. It doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I think I am here. Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Quote So what you’re basically saying is that it’s a standoff between you and Ark and no one is going to resume the duel until one of you gives in? Well that’s just great but then what am I supposed to do? If you’re going to suspend the duel until Ark does what you want, and he’s going to do the same, then that just means I have a character (Lusk) who’s currently stuck in the duel where I could be using him elsewhere. So is this standoff thing really what you two are going to be doing? Edited January 2, 2019 by I think I am here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Woodrack Posted January 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Quote My question is, whether or not you have an argument with this. If not, I don't have to listen to Ark's non possibility arguments, becuase he would be out of his bounds as a moderator. If you do think it's impossible Ark would be in his bounds, and then Walker will have to do something else. Moderator; an arbitrator or mediator Edited January 2, 2019 by Darth Woodrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I think I am here. Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) Quote Look, you shouldn’t be needing my input, because I’ll inherently be biased to my side. That’s why we have a mediator in the first place, so we can have someone to make decisions and solve problems unbiased to either side. The mediator should be solving problems between the participants, a player shouldn’t have to solve a problem between another participant and the mediator. One thing you do need to know is that Ark is the mediator. We both agreed he should be mediator, and that gives him some authority over the fight that shouldn’t be ignored if you just don’t feel like it. Look at the 2v2 duel with Archer mediating. All of us respected his authority, so even when he gave instructions that went against our attacks (eg. Rioting chalklings) we still worked around that. If you really wanted to go against the mediator, you would look for an (unbiased) third party. This was Voidus, who also disagreed with you. That should be plenty enough for you to know what to do without wanting to go to me. Also, you said Ark was overstepping bounds. What do you mean overstepping bounds? As a mediator, it’s completely in Ark’s control if an attack doesn’t seem probable. Of course, we can always ask if something appears wrong, but take a look at any previous duel and you’ll see Ark is much in his rights as a mediator to say what he said. Edited January 2, 2019 by I think I am here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted January 2, 2019 Report Share Posted January 2, 2019 Quote I would also add: Even if someone were hypothetically capable of pulling off Vin's trick, they still need to be aware that their opponent is burning Atium to do so. Regular battle instincts are not enough to overcome Atium, otherwise it'd be borderline useless. It's not my place to try and say something should or shouldn't be allowed, I'm trying to just provide factual information about the difficulty of doing so, it's a mediators job to then weigh that information against character abilities and circumstance and make a ruling. If you've agreed to a mediator then you need to respect their rulings on things like this, or else ask for a different mediator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) Quote I believe the problem occurring here is the Woodrack won't accept my decision because he knows me IRL. So, if you don't want, sure, have a different mediator. I'll step down happily. Edited January 3, 2019 by Ark1002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacThorstenson Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Quote I mean, when I first started the Idea for the mediators guild this was exactly what I envisioned them doing in my mind, judging things that were too outlandish to consider during a duel. Btw, if you need a third opinion, I would agree with the opinions of Voidus and Ark, despite the fact that it would mean helping a GB to win the Duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Quote We have a mod, and we have a mediator. We don't need you. It isn't fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacThorstenson Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 Quote I understand that you don’t need my opinion. I was just addressing his point that he thought you were overstepping your bounds. I explained that this was the envisioned role of Mediators from the beginning, and as an addendum I added my two cents about the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I think I am here. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 On 05/01/2019 at 2:18 AM, Darth Woodrack said: Itiah, yes I will continue our duel in a bit. Quote When it’s been 3 days :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Woodrack Posted January 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Quote I stand by my move. Walker could definitely do that move, but he did not know that you were using Atium, so he cannot mimic Vin, even if he is good enough to do so. Anyways, Walker swinging his mace like that still works, as Lusk is lunging forwards, and it is incredibly hard to course correct in air. At the very least, he would spin out of the way an not hit Walker, and that would alert Walker of the Atium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I think I am here. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Lusk saw the Mace headed towards his wrist, and realised quickly that he wouldn’t be able to correct course. He was not a Mistborn, who had pewter and the other metals to assist him. He had only Atium, and even then, that for a short time. But Atium was all he needed. Swapping the knife to the other hand, Lusk tapped age into the one Walker was targeting, until was a small baby arm on the side of his torso. Of course this sudden size change meant the space where Walker’s attack would have been, was now empty. He got a little scorch on the side, though, but not nearly as dangerous as t could have been. The place where Lusk was attacking, however, was not empty. And he wasn’t going to settle for a little injury. Quote So, since Walker hasn’t actually dodged, but instead just tried to counter-attack, does that mean the knife’s actually gone in him now? Because you had a chance to dodge, and you didn’t take it. About 10 seconds of Atium left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 (edited) Quote I'll take that. I'll edit in a sec with HP. Itiah, where did you stab? Walker: 52 (Damage pending) I'm thinking 5 up, depending on location. Lusk: 63 -2 for heat damage. @I think I am here. Edited January 8, 2019 by 2001Kra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I think I am here. Posted January 8, 2019 Report Share Posted January 8, 2019 Quote He aimed for the chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 9, 2019 Report Share Posted January 9, 2019 Quote Walker: 45 -7 for stab in chest Lusk: 63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I think I am here. Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 @Darth Woodrack Quote You want to continue the duel or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Woodrack Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Quote Three things. 1. Counting damage with out me responding to his counter attack is godmodding. 2. Ark, can you please go back and count all of the damage that you missed? 3. Itiah, I don't actually think that your selective age tapping is possible. Do you have evidence that it is? Yes, I do want to continue, but only after Ark catches up. @Ark1002 @I think I am here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Quote I've caught up. That wasn't true, you did respond, and you didn't even try to block it, so I counted it. If you don't post within three days, you will have been considered to forfeit the duel. This is you only warning. @Darth Woodrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Woodrack Posted January 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 (edited) Quote He changed his attack in a way that Walker would respond. I was busy, as you were at that time as well, so I didn't have time to make a counter to his counter to my counter. Also, how much damage did you do for the four posts choking, or the attempted leg break over the same period of time? Ark, don't feel like your doing your job, except for saying repeatedly that what I'm doing isn't possible, when Itiah has spent the entire duel doing something that I do not thing is possible. Mod. Count damage, regulate disputes. I am disputing whether or not he can even do that. My logic is: Then the lord ruler wouldn't have had to de tap his entire body; he could have just done it to his ams and legs, and spent about twice the amount of time, but with less chance of dying. My response to this. Walker jump backwards, avoiding the stab. He realized that either he was using atium, or that cube had pewter, either way he should keep his distance. He jumped backwards, away from Lusk. @Ark1002 Edited January 16, 2019 by Darth Woodrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voidus Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 Quote The purpose of having a mediator is to avoid constant arguments over this stuff. Once you've presented your case and a mediator has made a ruling you need to accept it and move on with the duel. If you've felt like your mediator is unable to fairly mediate a fight then you can ask for another mediator but please don't continuously argue with them like this, it sets a bad precedent and is only likely to make things worse. But just to address your query because there's a bit of a misunderstanding there: The Lord Ruler didn't need to spend any time aged at all. If he completely stopped tapping his Atium then he would die, as we saw. So the times when he was appearing older were just when he was choosing to tap less Youthfulness than normal, but still tapping quite a lot. We do also have a WoB that storing/Tapping for different sections of your body is possible for things like pewter, it's just really difficult. So I'd say this is definitely within the realms of possibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Quote Sorry, we've been discussing it IRL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Woodrack Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Quote Yeah. We've come to a consensus. And now he's finally counting the choke damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Quote Things I've missed Walker: 37 -7 for attempted leg break Lusk: 55 -7 for attempted choke -1 twisted arm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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