Shaukan-son-Hasweth he/him Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 Hello The last few days i've been thinking about surgebinding. Especially the spiritual effects of Surgebinding. Danlinar can use Spiritual Cohesion to instinktively know the language of another person, and i was wondering if every surge has a spiritual use. I think they have and that they are mostly passive abilites (exept for Dalinar). And the Use may be connected to the "Motto" of each order. Adhesion: Dalinar can bond to learn their language. Bringing people of diffrent backgrounds together. Speculation: Did Kaladin passively used Spiritual Adhesion to bring bridge 4 together into a group that protects each other? Or maybe it was Spiritual Gravitation. or nothing at all Gravitation: don't really know. --> See Cohesion Division: Skybreakers seem to have the ability to divide people into gulty and innocent iirc.. Abrasion: Speculation: Make yourself more or less noticable depending on how "slick" you make your spirit. Everybody seems to remember lift. Even when she is trying to be sneaky Progression: Speculation: peoples identity and connection to you grow over time as if tapping Aluminum/Duralumin. Illumination: All i can say to this is connected to Transformation Transformation: I think its more or less implied that Shallan is using Spiritual Transformation to make Bandids transform or wanting to transform into heroes. At the time she draws them how they could be it is tecnically still a lie(*cryptic humming*) which would make sense for the motto but if they want to they can transform more easily than a person without a radiant would. Speculation: Since i think the Elsecallers Motto is truth or Knowlege, i would guess that they use Transformation to make people become their true self more and more, giving up their acts. Maybe that effekt made shallan slowly progress in her Radiancy again while beeing Jasnahs ward. Transportation: no clue Cohesion: Make a spirit more flexible or more consistent. Tension: no clue Keep in mind that these are more random thoughts rather than a fully developed theory. All of those Effekts could be just due to personality. But maybe there is more to it. Some might worry that all of those things beeing magic somehow takes away the credit from the caracter actions, but i think that it is merely enhancing the ability of people who are already extraordinary. It's like Breeze says that emotional allomancy has the same effekt as having a good appearance. So let me hear your creative thoughts on this. Im always amazed what people on here come to think of. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashertliden Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) If this theory works out, tension could make someone more or less open to certain ideas or customs etc., similar the way burning zinc or brass is used. I think you may be onto something Edited September 12, 2018 by A stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ark1002 Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 I agree. Not necessarily with the powers of the surges, but the theory yes. It doesn't make sense for only one surge to have it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naurock Posted September 12, 2018 Report Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Shaukan-son-Hasweth said: Did Kaladin passively used Spiritual Adhesion to bring bridge 4 together into a group that protects each other? Or maybe it was Spiritual Gravitation. or nothing at all One of the tenants of Windrunners is leadership. I think Kaladin is bringing them together by inspiring them through acts of greatness and showing there's a higher path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MountainKing Posted September 13, 2018 Report Share Posted September 13, 2018 Skybreakers don't have any magical aability to let them know whose right or wrong. And we don't know if every surge have a spiritual version, we do know that every physical surge has a spiritual, cognitive, or both, and an surge we haven't seen its physical use of has at least one other effect dealing with one other realm or all the realms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scion of the Mists Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 9/12/2018 at 4:24 PM, Shaukan-son-Hasweth said: Division: Skybreakers seem to have the ability to divide people into gulty and innocent iirc.. What @MountainKing said: Quote Slowswift [PENDING REVIEW] Similar to how Lightweavers have, kind of really good memories. Do the Skybreakers have any special abilities for telling guilty and innocent people apart? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] No. Good question. source 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaukan-son-Hasweth he/him Posted September 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Scion of the Mists said: What @MountainKing said: Oooh ok. I remembered that exactly the wrong way thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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