LiquidBlue Posted September 6, 2018 Posted September 6, 2018 wiresegal Could someone burn an Allomantically inert metal that was Invested, like Invested silver or Invested lead? Brandon Sanderson I'm gonna give you a no on this one. I rarely give straight up "no"s, but you've got to remember that the Allomantic metal is the key, and the power behind it is gonna be inaccessible without the key. Now, there are more things that are Allomantically viable than have been discovered or talked about. But that's the problem right there. If it's not the right metal, if it doesn't provide the right... I'll just stop at key. If it isn't the right key. We'll get more into this as the Cosmere progresses. That's a very rare no for me. Usually you're gonna get a "well, it depends." source This new WOB jumped out at me a little. We know that you can burn feruchemically charged metal, god-metal alloys, and hemalurgical spikes for different allomantic effects. Knowledge about burning a metalmind is now widespread. There is at least one instance in-universe of burning a god-metal alloy. And at this point, there isn't any in-universe mention of burning hemalurgic spikes. Do you think that when Brandon says, "there are more things that are Allomantically viable than have been discovered or talked about" that these are the only things that he is referring to, or are there even more things that might be allomantically viable? I haven't give it much thought yet, but here are a couple of off the cuff thoughts. Folowing the example of burning metalminds and hemalugic spikes, I'm thinking about what other magic systems might have an effect. -People have already talked about burning shard blades (and shard plate?) -People have talked about burning god metals of other shards -What about awakened metal? You would have to start with an allomantic metal, but what happens if you try to burn an allomantic metal that has been awakened? This seems somewhat similar to burning a hemalurgic spike since in both cases you are burning a metal invested with parts os a person's spirit web. -What about metal that has had an Aon inscribed? Does it matter if you are near Elantris, or if the allomancer is an Elantrian? -What about a metal that doesn't merely have an Ion inscribed, but has an active Aon on it? 1
Calderis he/him Posted September 6, 2018 Posted September 6, 2018 25 minutes ago, LiquidBlue said: People have already talked about burning shard blades (and shard plate?) He didn't say this wasn't viable, he said that a Mistborn would be unlikely to possess the proper connection to that investiture. Quote word_thief What would happen if a Mistborn ingested the metal of a Shardblade/plate? Brandon Sanderson A shardblade is invested. A Mistborn isn't likely to have a tie to that type of Investiture. So probably nothing would happen… source 27 minutes ago, LiquidBlue said: People have talked about burning god metals of other shards Yep. Should be no different than the previous question. 27 minutes ago, LiquidBlue said: What about awakened metal? You would have to start with an allomantic metal, but what happens if you try to burn an allomantic metal that has been awakened? This seems somewhat similar to burning a hemalurgic spike since in both cases you are burning a metal invested with parts os a person's spirit web. Not what your thinking. Quote Questioner (paraphrased) What would happen if Allomancer was also an Awakener and Awakened metal he'd burn?” Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased) If he did that, he’d get allomantic power and also get back the Breaths used in Awakening the metal. Footnote: supposedly it was around half an hour into the signing line; has not been found on the record although we may have started it after it was asked alreadysource 29 minutes ago, LiquidBlue said: Does it matter if you are near Elantris, or if the allomancer is an Elantrian? -What about a metal that doesn't merely have an Ion inscribed, but has an active Aon on it? I imagine these would work the same as burning something that's been stamped. Quote Questioner If an Allomancer ate a Forged metal, what happens? Brandon Sanderson If an Allomancer eats a Forged metal, there is going to be some Investiture in that Forged metal, but it's not going to be keyed the right way, so it'd be like eating a metalmind... If you're asking if the metal was Forged into a different type of metal, the Forgery will take and it will believe and... that's going to get really weird. I have not considered that. That's a "let me think about it." My instincts say that it's going to work like the metal it's become long enough to burn for a few minutes, and then that's going to break the Forgery, and it's going to snap out of it and become the other [original] metal. That’s my instinct, but I’ll have to think about it further. [...] It's going to be really hard to burn a metal that's Invested like that. The magics don't mix real well. Kurkistan Eh, you can burn metalminds. Brandon Sanderson Yeah, you can, but it’s from the same "magic set", right? So... source I see two possibilities for that WoB. He's speaking in world, and there's all the things we've asked that no one's thought of cause they weren't more Cosmere aware. Or he speaking in the meta sense, and Allomancy isn't limited to the 16 metals. 1
LiquidBlue Posted September 7, 2018 Author Posted September 7, 2018 (edited) Thanks for sharing the WOBs. Of course people have asked all of these questions before. That was an awesome post. I remain intrigued by the latest WOB that I quoted, it is curious Brandon that explicitly states that there are allomantically viable things besides those already known in-universe. (Which, I agree, may simply refer to the topics that have be asked about) Edited September 7, 2018 by LiquidBlue reword
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