kazoo Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Do we know how chasmfiends develop their gemheart? What happens with the stormlight that larkins absorb? Does it concentrate within the creature and solidify into something concrete? I know that's a lot of questions but I was just wondering if anyone had ideas about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levian Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) I've seen somebody suggest that they can use their gemhearts to change forms similar to the Parshendi. I have always wondered why they have a gemheart though. Rare gem stones is something you probably shouldn't find inside a living creature, so something is up with them that we haven't been told yet I think. Edited April 4, 2014 by Levian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuthie Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 They require a spren to attain and function at their larger sizes. Spren require a bond and Stormlight to operate in the physical. The gemhearts store Stormlight given off in Highstorms. As for Larkin's...I have a feeling the Stormlight they ingest is lost/does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Gemhearts form because of a leak from the Spiritual Realm into the Physical, in much the same way that atium forms. ViperOk. The gemhearts/stormgems/whatever that are grown inside the beasts in Way of Kings ... is that the same as the way Atium is grown inside geodes in the Pits of Hathsin?Brandon SandersonIt's similar. The pits are an area where there's like a leak from the spiritual realm into the physical. That's what happens there. (source) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuthie Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Does make more sense that Cultivation wouldn't want her creations relying on a construct of Honor when she can feed them directly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazoo Posted April 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 Thanks for the responses guys. I've seen somebody suggest that they can use their gemhearts to change forms similar to the Parshendi. I have always wondered why they have a gemheart though. Rare gem stones is something you probably shouldn't find inside a living creature, so something is up with them that we haven't been told yet I think. I like that idea! Except maybe as Leuthie wrote, it is the spren that allows them to change forms. Agreed that it's unusual to find rare gems within living creatures and that it's more unusual that they are always (so far) completely infused with stormlight Hypothetical: if they are able to change forms, would the size of their gemheart change with each transformation? Maybe a better hypothetical question: what comes first, gemheart or spren (if indeed a spren does bond with chasmfiend)? They require a spren to attain and function at their larger sizes. Spren require a bond and Stormlight to operate in the physical. The gemhearts store Stormlight given off in Highstorms.As for Larkin's...I have a feeling the Stormlight they ingest is lost/does nothing. You think the gemheart exists before their bond with a spren? Thought that spren can only bond with sentient beings (no source, just an understanding I thought I had of this world)? I feel the stormlight that larkins absorb must do something...don't have the book near me at work but I don't recall reading about the larkin glowing after it absorbed the stormlight from Lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leuthie Posted April 4, 2014 Report Share Posted April 4, 2014 The gemheart and the spren bond exist side by side to power the magic needed to allow great shells and Chasmfiends to attain and function with such great size carapaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropicscholar Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I always assumed that they created gemhearts the same way clams create pearls. Once they have the gemhearts on the other hand... lots of possibilities there. Edited April 6, 2014 by entropicscholar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satsuoni Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 You think the gemheart exists before their bond with a spren? Thought that spren can only bond with sentient beings (no source, just an understanding I thought I had of this world)? Depends on spren. Those spren that are "smart" need a mind in Physical realm (born to physical Realm?) to function normally in Physical realm. Parshendi mind is too close to Shadesmar (possibly that is why they are rather stupid without spren), so that is why Nahel bond spren prefer humans (they probably cannot think properly bonded to Parshmen) Other spren seem to be able to create a symbiosis (not sure if it is bond per se, or they just coexist) with many various animals native to Roshar. Skyeels and shelled beasts are an example. Spren gets Stormlight from gemheart, beasts gets benefit, like decreased gravity for the body/carapace, possibly other benefits as well. We don't know if Larkin has a spren or if it is just its ability. They seem to feed on Stormlight, possibly in reverse of Lifts ability (as in, they actually eat only Stormlight and convert it to body weight), or as an additive in case they get sick, etc. Stormlight probably just gets used up, like in case of Lopen using it up to regrow arm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinnwalder Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 What if the Larkin is a type of spren? (the cognitave aspect of the reshi island's soul). It would be a wierd spren because it is present in the physical relm more than the other spren are, but what if the reason it came to Rysn was because it was attracted to her actions? What if it bonded with her and thus saved her from the fall by allowing her to draw in stormlight? (cusioning her fall). Again this is speculation that doesn't really have any basis, but what if bonding a Larkin (a super rare spren) is something like Dalinar bonding the storm father? could that make her a bondsmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kazoo Posted April 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Maybe it possesses the same traits of spren, such as bonding and an affinity for stormlight. Agreed that it's speculation but I like the idea! Maybe they are more akin to Ryshadium instead of spren, the more I think about it. Both seem to bond to a human and possess supernatural talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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