Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 The possible implications for the Recreance both me as well. It doesn't seem like Kaladin can FORCE Syl to remain in sword form, but that she does so in response to Kaladin's needs and thoughts. For me that says that the KR who abandoned their shards, did so in concert with those shards in some way. There is no way those Spren didnt' know what was coming because of the coordination that you mentioned. Plus the Windrunners are shown still having full access to the Gravitation surge up to the moment where they abandoned their shardblade/plate. What would cause the bonded spren to sacrifice themselves, but at the same time not tell any of the other spren in Shadesmar what/why they were doing it? Also - what would that mean for spren who are probably still around from that time like the Stormfather? How was his bond severed? Did the Bondsmith forswear their oaths? Suicide? The other options is that something caused the spren to go inert while still granting their powers, which caused the majority of KR to give up their shards because "it wasn't right" or something to that effect. Though that doesn't seem correct to me...
Awesomeness Summoned he/him Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I'm not sure where the WoB is but Brandon was asked if the spren could have been left as spears, hammers, etc. instead of blades and he said no. The spren were copying what Honor did with the Heralds's when they made the Nahel bond. As such, they are fashioned after Honorblades. Since that is their "base" form, when the bond is broken, that is the form they take. The knights from that recreance vision could have already all broken their bonds separately from each other before they went to the fortress. Their blades were already dead spren so the coordination of all showing up at the fortress and dropping the blades together wouldn't have required the spren's cooperation. Edit: I missed your mention of them still showing surgebinding abilities up until they dropped the blades. That does imply they broke the bond at that moment. Edited March 26, 2014 by Awesomeness Summoned
Green Hoodie Mistborn he/him Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 I remember that WoB as well and it confused me since Syl's natural form definitely seems to be a young wispy woman. She doesn't seem to like to be in blade form... nor do any of the spren we've met thus far. The other Order Radiants seem to have had access to the sword version of their spren "earlier" in their Oaths/Words than Kal as well, wonder if that's just my reading or if it is accurate in some way.
Awesomeness Summoned he/him Posted March 26, 2014 Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) I remember that WoB as well and it confused me since Syl's natural form definitely seems to be a young wispy woman. She doesn't seem to like to be in blade form... nor do any of the spren we've met thus far. I think it has to do with the fact that as the bond progresses they get more and more locked into a certain state of being. At their core, spren are ideas come to life so their essential state of being can change depending on how they see themselves or humans perceive them. In their original form Honorspren are like windspren, how we normally picture Syl for instance, but once they form the bond, they begin to change and progress towards a state of being like the thing they are trying to copy, Honroblades. The spren from the vision had the highest level bond. They were closer to being honorblades at that point than the spren they originally were so they locked into that form when they died. Edited March 26, 2014 by Awesomeness Summoned
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