Magnanimous Taz Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Was wondering if Nalan is aware of the cost of using Nightblood unsheathed. He refers to it as a shardblade when WE know it is something else. What will happen if Szeth runs out of stormlight while wielding him? [spoilers]We know that on Nalthis, nightblood will feed on the users innate breath and kill him/her when they have exhausted extra breaths. [/spoilers] Don't know how this will manifest on Roshar where afaik there is no innate investiture comparable to the basic Breath. Also hope I did the spoiler tag correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Count he/him Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I think a broader question is how is Szeth going to use Nightblood anyway since his ability to infuse himself with Stormlight was granted by the Honorblade, which he no longer possesses. Presumably Szeth can no longer Surgebind or infuse himself with Stormlight. I can only suppose that Nightblood must be able to suck Stormlight into itself directly from gems (and possibly other surgebinders) bypassing that requirement. This would mean that the fights between Szeth and the other Shin honorblade holders will be reduced to just swordfights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnanimous Taz Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I totally spaced on Szeth losing his ability to surgebind. And that was pretty much what I've been trying to get my head around. We have never seen nightblood display that ability, given only one scene that is truly relevant, but I doubt that he can do that. I also feel that szeth is due to bond a spren... I mean when a herald tells you that you are a dead ringer for the order that they oversee, I would think the spren would being showing interest. I definitely believe he will have stormlight to spend, but what happens when he doesn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haradion Drogon Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I... took it to mean that Szeth is going to return as a Skybreaker. I am also wondering if a Shardblade, is a Sword/Weapon powered by a Shard. Shardblades are made of Spren - which are splinters of Honor. Nightblood is powered by Breaths. I am wondering if Nightblood required Divine Breaths to Awaken. If that is the case, then it is powered by a splinter of Endowment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnanimous Taz Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 That is how I interpret nalan's comments to szeth also. Nightblood was made using regular breaths, just a huge number of them. I know that there was a lot of discussion here whether you could have enough breaths to equal a divine breath; a whole quality vs quantity thing. I tend to believe that a divine breath is fundamentally different from the innate version, meaning that any comparison is apples to oranges, not one humongous apple = x number of smaller ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyJackDaniels he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think that Nighblood as an invested item must be able to infuse itself with stormlight. I can't imagine that any spren is going to bond with Szeth while he's carrying it. The Heralds were examples for the Knights Radiant, but I don't think they have any direct control over them, and I don't think they can create new ones. The Knights Radiant were created by the spren, and I'm pretty sure that sprint are directly the reason that KR get powers, e.g. the Stormfather approving Kaladin and Dalinar's Words. My guess is that Nalan uses Szeth to enact his own twisted brand of justice, and will even call him a Skybreaker, but he's not going to be an actual anointed Knight Radiant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbauks he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 About Nightblood: We know that the sword consumes investiture when unsheathed. This is in 2 ways: 1. It consumes some amount of breath per second from the wielder and 2. It consumes the investiture present in each person it hits (the stuff of life). So we can guess that if Szeth runs out of Stormlight, it would probably kill Szeth by consuming the investiture present in his life. About Nalan: He's been hunting surgebinders to stop the desolations. I doubt he's going to make Szeth one. Either Szeth has to carry infused spheres or Nightblood will give him the ability to infuse. Or some other option we don't know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatLine Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I think Nightblood is going to add a lot of powers to Szeth that we don't know about. It is pretty much a shardblade on Roshar. I think Nightblood might even act like a spren because it can talk to Szeth in his mind. So like a super void blade/voidspren? We'll have to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnanimous Taz Posted March 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I didn't mean to imply that nalan would want/intend for szeth to become a surgebinder. I just think that he is very aware of the qualities that skybreakers generally possess. I think that szeth is going to get the attention of some spren quite soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbauks he/him Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 I didn't mean to imply that nalan would want/intend for szeth to become a surgebinder. I just think that he is very aware of the qualities that skybreakers generally possess. I think that szeth is going to get the attention of some spren quite soon. I'm hoping the first third of stones unhallowed will be more or less Szeth moving towards not being crazy, the second third having him forming a bond with his spren, and the last part having him join up with the Radiant crew and kicking some serious chull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Maker Posted March 20, 2014 Report Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I think that on Roshar, Nightblood will evolve into spren, and give Seth unique surge binding qualities. Did anyone notice how the way Nightbloods smoke behaves is similar to the mysterious glowing black sphere that Gavilar had when he died? Edited March 20, 2014 by Mr Maker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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