Kaladin and Shallan

[Downraiser]

Hello there, 
 

i am new here and i need your help to solv a problem we (me and my gf) have. It´s about the Kaladin-Shallan-Relationship in Words of Radiance. 

The Situation: At the first meeting of Shallan and Kaladin, Kaladin thinks she is an imposter because the real Shallan has drowned. 

The Question: How did Kaladin knew this? 

The Problem: We can´t find a valid answer how Kaladin knew Shallan should have drowned. A few charpters earlier Navani mused that Jasna and Shallan hadn´t arrived yet because Jasna probably made another detour. There are no witnesses that have seen the ship sink. There are no other known survivers. We really don´t know how Kaladin got to this conclusion.

Why is this important: This situation defines a lot over the early Shallan-Kaladin-Relationship and explains Kaladins distrust of Shallan .. 

Till now we have re-read Word of Radiance twice and bought the audible audiobook. I listent trought the audiobook twice now (45 hours), but i still can not find a valid answer how he came to this conclusion!!

Sorry if this question was already answered or if there is a simpel paragraph that gives a good answer. We are no nativ-english-speakers, but we read and listen every Sandersons-Book in it´s o-tone. Too much of the athmosphere is lost in during the translation process .. . 

I have Oathbringer since the release. But i can´t get myself to really read the book because this question troubles me and i am stuck at Words of Radiance  



 

Edited May 16, 2018 by Downraiser

[RShara she/her]

58 minutes ago, Downraiser said:

Hello there, 
 

i am new here and i need your help to solv a problem we (me and my gf) have. It´s about the Kaladin-Shallan-Relationship in Words of Radiance. 

The Situation: At the first meeting of Shallan and Kaladin, Kaladin thinks she is an imposter because the real Shallan has drowned. 

The Question: How did Kaladin knew this? 

The Problem: We can´t find a valid answer how Kaladin knew Shallan should have drowned. A few charpters earlier Navani mused that Jasna and Shallan hadn´t arrived yet because Jasna probably made another detour. There are no witnesses that have seen the ship sink. There are no other known survivers. We really don´t know how Kaladin got to this conclusion.

Why is this important: This situation defines a lot over the early Shallan-Kaladin-Relationship and explains Kaladins distrust of Shallan .. 

Till now we have re-read Word of Radiance twice and bought the audible audiobook. I listent trought the audiobook twice now (45 hours), but i still can not find a valid answer how he came to this conclusion!!

Sorry if this question was already answered or if there is a simpel paragraph that gives a good answer. We are no nativ-english-speakers, but we read and listen every Sandersons-Book in it´s o-tone. Too much of the athmosphere is lost in during the translation process .. . 

I have Oathbringer since the release. But i can´t get myself to really read the book because this question troubles me and i am stuck at Words of Radiance  



 

 

They'd gotten reports that the ship had been delayed, and then other reports that the ship had gone down. Chapter 35 has this:

 

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Everything had been done and checked three times over. She stepped up to the front of her platform—holding the railing tightly with freehand and gloved safehand—and blessed the Almighty for the distracting power of a good fabrial project. She’d used this one at first to divert herself from worrying about Jasnah, though she’d eventually realized that Jasnah would be fine. True, reports now said the ship had been lost with all hands, but this wasn’t the first time that supposed disaster had struck Navani’s daughter. Jasnah played with danger as a child played with a captive cremling, and she always came through.

 

[CousinOfTheLopen]

I think that he thought she might not be who she said she is partially because Kaladin takes his job seriously, and because of this he tends to be a bit paranoid. It did look a bit suspicious, Shallan coming in claiming the others were dead and that she was the girl betrothed to one of the most influential young men in Alethkar with her being the only witness that any of this was true. Kaladin may have also mistrusted her at first just because of his first impression of her, which would be that of a spoiled lighteyes who stole his boots and lied to him about who she was. Kaladin also believes that "all lighteyes are opportunists" (excluding Dalinar),and because of that was convinced she was some sort of con woman.