Echo Image?

[Cosmernaut]

I read a WoB where a question was RAFO'd. It asked about an echo image of Adonalsium being inside Hoid. My head is kind of disorganized with all the Cosmere info so I was wondering if someone here could tell me what this means exactly. What is an echo image? How would it get inside something? How does that usually affect someone?

[RShara she/her]

22 minutes ago, Cosmernaut said:

I read a WoB where a question was RAFO'd. It asked about an echo image of Adonalsium being inside Hoid. My head is kind of disorganized with all the Cosmere info so I was wondering if someone here could tell me what this means exactly. What is an echo image? How would it get inside something? How does that usually affect someone?

So when someone dies, if they have enough power (investiture) in them, they can become a Cognitive Shadow, which is basically the person's ghost, hanging around in the Cognitive Realm.  For example, SA Spoilers.

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The Stormfather is a Cognitive Shadow of Honor, that has also absorbed a big chunk of Honor's power.

So I think the questioner was wondering if Hoid was carrying around the Cognitive Shadow of Adonalsium, or a piece of it, or some of its memories or something like that.

[Cosmernaut]

10 minutes ago, RShara said:

So when someone dies, if they have enough power (investiture) in them, they can become a Cognitive Shadow, which is basically the person's ghost, hanging around in the Cognitive Realm.  For example, SA Spoilers.

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The Stormfather is a Cognitive Shadow of Honor, that has also absorbed a big chunk of Honor's power.

So I think the questioner was wondering if Hoid was carrying around the Cognitive Shadow of Adonalsium, or a piece of it, or some of its memories or something like that.

Ah, I see. Okay. Makes sense. I knew about cognitive shadows but wasn't aware that they were referred to as echoes.

[RShara she/her]

1 minute ago, Cosmernaut said:

Ah, I see. Okay. Makes sense. I knew about cognitive shadows but wasn't aware that they were referred to as echoes.

They generally aren't, but when you're trying to ask a question, sometimes you fumble the terminology   I mean, I'm not the questioner, so I could be wrong.  But I think that's what he's referring to.  Whether some imprint or part of Adonalsium is part of Hoid.

Edited January 23, 2018 by RShara

[Cosmernaut]

8 minutes ago, RShara said:

They generally aren't, but when you're trying to ask a question, sometimes you fumble the terminology   I mean, I'm not the questioner, so I could be wrong.  But I think that's what he's referring to.  Whether some imprint or part of Adonalsium is part of Hoid.

No, I think you're right. I thought there was something that I was missing. But referring to it as a cognitive shadow has it make sense.

[Oversleep]

3 hours ago, RShara said:

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The Stormfather is a Cognitive Shadow of Honor, that has also absorbed a big chunk of Honor's power.

 

Actually... it was the other way around:

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Stormfather was a Splinter of Honor, who later absorbed Honor's Cognitive Shadow.

[RShara she/her]

4 minutes ago, Oversleep said:

Actually... it was the other way around:

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Stormfather was a Splinter of Honor, who later absorbed Honor's Cognitive Shadow.

I wasn't explaining it in any particular chronology Sorry, yeah, it was backward.

Edited January 23, 2018 by RShara