Yezrien Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 Here's a WoB from earlier this month. Quote XS-Terrain [PENDING REVIEW] Also, does each of the Unmade have a corresponding order of the Knights Radiant? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Eh... Kind of. XS-Terrain [PENDING REVIEW] Ok. So there are nine Unmade right, so which one is left out? Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW] Bondsmith. But it's not as one to one, there's some fuzziness in there. There's been a lot of talk about the Unmade corresponding to heralds because their numbers are so close (9 and 10), but this WoB suggests the Unmade have more to do with Radiants. What if the Unmade were made (or un-made) from the souls of Radiants who died during desolations? There have always been theories that Recreance was partially due to Radiants learning that some awful fate awaited them after death. Maybe this was it. Maybe the investiture in their Nahel bonds allows Odium to trap their souls when they die. The same way he turned dead Dawnsingers into the Fused, he's turned dead Radiants into the Unmade. One Unmade for each order of Radiants. Except Bondsmiths, because it probably takes hundreds or thousands of souls to make an Unmade, and there just haven't been enough Bondsmiths to make it work. The "fuzziness" Brandon mentions is because the Unmade aren't 100% from each order. Re-Shephir might be 99% Lightweaver souls, but it's possible that some Elsecallers got mixed in. The Unmade with more humanity and intelligence might be the ones with the most souls, representing the larger orders.
StormingTexan he/him Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 Brandon has said they are spren as well as splinters of Odium. Quote WeiryWriter Are the Unmade Splinters of Odium? Brandon Sanderson Yes. Good guess. Quote David J Foster I name my computers and smartphones after spren. But I am out of names. Is there a name you wouldn't mind revealing? Brandon Sanderson Well, do you need good spren? Or is the occasional evil spren acceptable? David J Foster Your call! And evil spren would be fantastic for my new phone. Brandon Sanderson Ulim. (Also, the Unmade count as spren. You could look those up.) johnny papshmere I didn't think spren could be good or evil?? Brandon Sanderson Most spren are neither. Sapient spren (capable of making choices) can be either one.
Yezrien Posted December 13, 2017 Author Posted December 13, 2017 I don’t think that necessarily disproves the theory. Being souls, they’re sentient bits of pure investiture, which would make them spren. And since Odium corrupted them with his own investiture, they would be considered part of him. (Assuming the investiture of a Rosharan human soul wasn’t of Odium to begin with.)
StormingTexan he/him Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Possible but I feel like the Unmade pre-date KR. No proof on this and would be a great question to ask Brandon. In world the the author of Mythica thinks they do. Of course this is a pretty contemporary in world book and she may be wrong. Quote “The book,” Shallan said, “claims there were nine Unmade. That matches the vision Dalinar saw, though other reports speak of ten Unmade. They’re likely ancient spren, primal, from the days before human society and civilization. Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 756). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. Edited December 13, 2017 by StormingTexan
Yata he/him Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 Splinters are for definition not mortal-based, Just Investiture that becomed sentient. If the Unmade were KH's Ghosts. They will be' Cognitive Shadows (like the Heralds for example) not Splinters. Rosharans will call both "spren" but Rosharan's language's rigor is mostly a no sense XD
Dangerous_Pants Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 Wasn't it said that there were Spren via Adonalsium on Roshar before. Could that be the "made" part, and Odium came in afterwards and unmade (broke/correupted) them to suit his purposes?
Recommended Posts