[OB] Nightblood's sister?

[FieldSurgeon she/her]

Page 1010 (Kindle version)... Azure/Vivenna is taking about her sword to the Honor Spren on the ship.  I think she created a new sword.  I don't if Vasher helped or not though.  

Any thoughts?
 

Spoiler

Page 1010 (Kindle version) "Draw her carefully," Azure said to Borea the first mate, as Shallan approached. "Don't pull her all the way-she doesn't know you."  

 

[Blazenella he/him]

I recommend moving this to the OB Spoiler Board, thats where everyone is RN

[Llarimar he/him]

I think we can assume that the art of Awakening inanimate objects to the point of sentience has really improved since Warbreaker.  Nightblood is definitely a rough creation, and in some ways a total disaster when you take into account he starts killing you when you draw the sword.  They've probably just had a lot more more practice since Warbreaker in making animate swords, and have perfected the art of the Awakened-Shardblade.  Vivenna definitely has a new sword and I'm not sure if Vasher helped her create it - it would depend on how much time has passed between Warbreaker and Oathbringer, and how skilled Vivenna is in the art of Awakening (because at the end of Warbreaker, there's no way she was skilled enough to Awaken a sword on her own).

As a side note, I was kind of surprised by how many Warbreaker tie-ins there were in Oathbringer, especially since Warbreaker has really been a smaller book on the fringes of the Cosmere up to this point.  I wonder if the Warbreaker characters will continue to be important in future books, and if there will be any more books set on Nalthis.  

Edited December 8, 2017 by Llarimar

[Scion of the Mists]

Brandon has said that he considers Warbreaker to be a prequel to Stormlight.  That's why there's so many "cross-overs."

 

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Questioner

Why so many characters from Warbreaker [in Stormlight]?

Brandon Sanderson

'Cause Warbreaker is a prequel to Stormlight. I wrote Stormlight first, and then I actually went and wrote Warbreaker about Kaladin's swordmaster, but then that portion of Stormlight didn't get published, and this one did, but they're very interconnected to me.

 

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/175-oathbringer-houston-signing/#e8512

Edited December 8, 2017 by Scion of Ookla
Added WOB

[Blacksmithki]

Yah, what scion said, the characters were intended to be a big part of this series before warbreaker was made. Go read WoK prime, Zahel is pretty much the same person there.

[Llarimar he/him]

9 minutes ago, Scion of Ookla said:

Brandon has said that he considers Warbreaker to be a prequel to Stormlight.  That's why there's so many "cross-overs."

That's really cool.  I was pretty shocked when Vivenna showed up in Oathbringer because I did not think she was important enough as a character to make a splash in the larger cosmere, but it makes sense if Warbreaker has been planned as a sort of prequel to Stormlight.

[aemetha he/him]

20 minutes ago, Llarimar said:

I think we can assume that the art of Awakening inanimate objects to the point of sentience has really improved since Warbreaker.

I think pretty much ANY other phrase to awaken an inanimate object would be an improvement on Nightblood. In the cosmere future I would not be surprised if references to the five scholars is used a euphemism for smart people doing really stupid things or something along those lines.

"And now, I'll just add a little aluminium to the mixture and we'll see what happens."

"Fine, when the dust settles I'll make sure they add your name in as the sixth scholar!"

[Rainier]

2 hours ago, aemetha said:

I think pretty much ANY other phrase to awaken an inanimate object would be an improvement on Nightblood.

Exactly this. Anything that doesn't start with 'Destroy' is a good start. Like, 'Cut when drawn' is better than 'Destroy Evil.'

Although given how Vasher says that more complicated ideas are harder to fix in your mind, you might not have much choice.

Speculation on the sword's command is great, though. I really hope we get to see Nightblood (the Warbreaker sequel) before the next Stormlight book, although realistically it's more likely to precede Szeth's book (book 5), as he is its current bearer.

[aemetha he/him]

3 minutes ago, Rainier said:

Although given how Vasher says that more complicated ideas are harder to fix in your mind, you might not have much choice.

I think "Cut enemies" would be an improvement. Cut makes it clear we aren't annihilating pieces of the universe, and enemies gives a frame of reference that doesn't exist with evil.

[Isaiah Zayth he/him]

10 minutes ago, Rainier said:

Exactly this. Anything that doesn't start with 'Destroy' is a good start. Like, 'Cut when drawn' is better than 'Destroy Evil.'

Although given how Vasher says that more complicated ideas are harder to fix in your mind, you might not have much choice.

Speculation on the sword's command is great, though. I really hope we get to see Nightblood (the Warbreaker sequel) before the next Stormlight book, although realistically it's more likely to precede Szeth's book (book 5), as he is its current bearer.

"Cut when drawn" is certainly better than "Destroy evil", but it sure would make scabbarding the sword difficult. 

[aemetha he/him]

3 minutes ago, Isaiah Zayth said:

but it sure would make scabbarding the sword difficult

*Sends, from Nalthis an order for a shipment of Aluminium from Scadrial,*

The perks of being a worldhopper .

[Rainier]

50 minutes ago, aemetha said:

I think "Cut enemies" would be an improvement. Cut makes it clear we aren't annihilating pieces of the universe, and enemies gives a frame of reference that doesn't exist with evil.

And yet, I'm guessing that exactly what they didn't want to do when making Nightblood. I think they wanted a sword that could think for itself and thus judge for itself what is right and wrong, what is good and evil. 'Cut enemies' means anyone or anything can be an enemy, and then it's really no different than Kalad's Phantoms: a terrifying weapon in control of the one who wields it. I think Shashara and Vasher wanted to make a sword with a soul and with a conscience. 

That being said, it turned out so badly that Vasher killed his partner and held on to Nightblood for years due to its dangerous nature. They failed, but I'm guessing they were shooting for something more than a really cool sword.