HoidsRock Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Hi everyone, I am hoping that I can get some help filling in this chart with either facts or educated guesses or wild speculative guesses. Corrections are also welcome. This post assumes that related but lesser spren become shardplate (e.g. Syl’s cousins, the wind spren, become Windrunner shardplate). However, the comments about Jasnah and Dalinar have me wondering. Note 1, does the following refer to Jasnah's potential shardplate? Quote A glow faded around [Jasnah], different from the smoke of her Stormlight. Like geometric shapes outlining her … Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 1150). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. That makes it sound like Cryptics are her shardplate? I am sure this is not right but would love other explanations. Note 2, doe the following refer to Dalinar's shardplate? Quote Something flashed around [Dalinar’s] arm. Lines of light, a framework that covered his body. Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 1028). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. If so, are these lightspren? Is there some sort of non-evil stormlight spren? Is this the same light as: Quote He dipped his pen again. “Would you close the balcony doors again, gemheart?” he asked her. “The sunlight is distracting me from the other light.” “Other light?” He nodded absently. Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 1228). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. Channeling my inner Pattern, both truth and lies in response to this would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 There's a great thread here that I reference so often, I think I need to bookmark it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoidsRock Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Looking back on this I realize my chart never uploaded. Edited December 5, 2017 by HoidsRock Changed from excel file to image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dopey Spren Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Logicspren for Jasnah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoidsRock Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 55 minutes ago, A Dopey Spren said: Logicspren for Jasnah? I like it. These appear as little stormclouds in the physical realm (which is amusing) but we know that Kaladin could not recognize windspren in Shadesmar so maybe logicspren appear differently there. And geometry makes sense for logicspren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dopey Spren Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I'd also add lifespren to the Edgedancers as an educated guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTiger Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Flamespren could work for lightspren, if only because they are attracted to fire, which gives of light (very tenuous, I know). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoidsRock Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, A Dopey Spren said: I'd also add lifespren to the Edgedancers as an educated guess! Excellent guess. I am updating my chart. 1 hour ago, SilverTiger said: Flamespren could work for lightspren, if only because they are attracted to fire, which gives of light (very tenuous, I know). Makes sense but I assumed they would be aligned with Ashspren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTiger Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, HoidsRock said: Makes sense but I assumed they would be aligned with Ashspren. Nah, Ashspren get kaboom-spren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RShara Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Did you see the post I linked? There's Lifespren as the shardplate for Edgedancers and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoidsRock Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, RShara said: Did you see the post I linked? There's Lifespren as the shardplate for Edgedancers and so forth. Actually missed it the first time. It is very helpful. Thank you. Moving into crazy theory time, the lesser Spren for Skybreakers are passionspren. Quote Passionspren fluttered around them like crystal flakes of snow. Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (pp. 55-56). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. They show up three times in Oathbringer, and twice the context is romance. The third time is more ambiguous when Dalinar contemplates killing Gavilar: Quote A throne … a throne and more. The woman Dalinar should have been able to claim. A love he’d been forced to abandon, for what reason? No, his fighting today was not done. This was not all! He started toward the group, his mind fuzzy, his insides feeling a deep ache. Passionspren—like tiny crystalline flakes—dropped around him. Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 271). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. As to why they are associated are with Skybreakers, I only have two references: Quote “I have failed,” Nin repeated. “And now, for the people, justice must be done. A very difficult justice, Szeth-son-Neturo. Even for my Skybreakers.” “We will endeavor to be as passionless and logical as you, aboshi.” Nin laughed. It didn’t seem to carry the mirth that it should have. “Me? No, Szeth-son-Neturo. I am hardly passionless. This is the problem.” [italics mine] Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (p. 987). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. And then on Szeth's 3rd Ideal Quote [Nin]: "You have said the Words?” [Szeth]: “Not yet. I swear to follow the will of Dalinar Kholin. This is my oath.” At the Words, snow crystallized around him in the air, then fluttered down. He felt a surge of something. Approval? From the hidden spren who only rarely showed itself to him, even still. “I believe that your Words have been accepted." Sanderson, Brandon. Oathbringer: Book Three of the Stormlight Archive (pp. 1197-1198). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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