Glaring at the Survivor he/him Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 I have seen many theories of where Shardplate and Shardblades are. We know that there once were many, many sets of Plate and Blades, right? Well, what if most of them were destroyed? Certainly, there are many sets of Shardplate and Shardblades in Urithiru, of course. And the Shin almost certainly have plenty of sets of their own. However, chances are there were still dozens, perhaps hundreds of sets of Plate and Blades left unaccounted for. My theory here then is that most of the sets have been destroyed. If there were many mini-wars during the Recreance in which normal people took Shardplate and Shardblades and fought each other for it all, one would assume that many, many sets would have been utterly ruined. In addition, we cannot assume that it was common knowledge that inserting gems into newly-given Shardplate would make it "regenerate" the broken portions of it. I am assuming that this was knowledge receive much later on - at least after a fair number of sets of Shardplate were smashed to bits and then scattered. And then these broken, shattered, scattered pieces of Shardplate, over the course of four thousand five hundred years, got buried in the sands of time and... sand. Y. Ness. Stuff. Apologies if this has been suggested before. I (1) didn't know what to search, and (2) didn't find anything when I tried to search... Now... tear me down and point me to the light! Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taveren he/him Posted February 27, 2014 Report Share Posted February 27, 2014 maybe they fade out of this realm when not in use or lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AerionBFII he/him Posted February 28, 2014 Report Share Posted February 28, 2014 maybe they fade out of this realm when not in use or lost When they are not in use i think they are stored in the Spiritual Realm. Alethkar has about 20-30 according to Dalinar, Jah Keved has slightly less. I think a lot of them are just missing, Eshonai said the Parshendi have 1. I think roughly Roshar's militaries have about 80-100 of them. I think organizations on Roshar such as the Ghostbloods, the Church or the Order Teft belonged to. Darkness had a suspected Shardblade and so did one of his cronies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numuhukumakiakiaialunamor he/him Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) What if the ardentia has some of them. It makes sense that they would have had at least some during the hierocracy, and I think that when it became evident that they were going to lose the war, they hid away most of not all of the plates and blades. Not to get off topic, but if they did have done shards, they would be in a great position to try to take over the government again seeing that they already control most if not all of the soulcasters on Roshar. I realize this is a pretty crackpot theory, but imagine if the ardents one day all summoned shardblades. It would be totally unexpected and they could easily take over the government and reestablish the hierocracy. Once again, it is very unlikely that this would happen, but it would explain at least in part the missing plate and blades. Edit: Was it even the ardents that controlled the government during the hierocracy? Or was the ardentia founded after the hierocracy as a means of keeping religion from controlling government? In other words, was the ardentia founded after the hierocracy, or just changed into what it is now? Edited March 1, 2014 by Numuhukumakiakiaialunamor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly he/him Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 The form was presumably vastly different before vs after, so while the priesthood would have been the same, the artentia system is probably recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numuhukumakiakiaialunamor he/him Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 So would it have been the same people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swimmingly he/him Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 I have no idea. I assume that the Sunmaker instituted his own priests into the ardentia, but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oathbringer he/him Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Certainly there are many plates and blades missing. In The Way of Kings it is said that Athelkar and jah keved hold only 80 together and all other kingdoms another 40. Assuming that other nations hid their numbers, it could be double or triple. Maybe about 240 or even 360. However shards must somewheres. At Dalinar's vision at feverstone keep, with only 2 orders(and probably not even all of those orders) these knights radiant held at least 300 meaning that if each order were that same size then there must be at least 1500 shardbearers. That is a lot missing. It is unlikely that all of these were lost. As far as we know they cannot be fully destroyed, and kingdoms at this present time and previpsly desire them and will have searched for them. I think something that could be likely is that many of them left their shards in hied n bases of the KR or places such as Uritheru(sorry sp). Further, it seems that certain organizations such as the ghostbloods hold shards and even possibly some in the ardentia as they have soulcasters after all. However I doubt that these groups have a thousand shards hidden and that. They are able to keep it a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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