Alendi and shadows

[Hiadin Haloun he/him]

I have been tossing this around in my brain for a long time.  The mist spirit that Alendi sees is described as a shadow in the logbook.  He talks about the edges not fuzzing or some such (My copy of the book is in storage) but it makes me wonder, the terminology he uses seems VERY cosmere aware.  Could Alendi have known about things outside of Scadrial?  Perhaps because his people are refugees?  Or perhaps in his quest he had to worldhop?  Anyways this is something that has bugged me for a while.

[King Cole he/him]

I'm almost certain he had no idea what was going on

[Hiadin Haloun he/him]

22 hours ago, Calderis said:

Not confirmed. 

There are two main camps. Spren and Bonds. 

I personally am in the bonds camp. 

I think the spren is probably more important as fabrials all use spren that have been trapped to perform their magics.

[Calderis he/him]

5 minutes ago, Hiadin Haloun said:

I think the spren is probably more important as fabrials all use spren that have been trapped to perform their magics.

And the Honorblades? Ancient Soulcaster fabrials? 

And... Did the topic get edited? This doesn't seem to belong here 

Edited November 24, 2017 by Calderis

[Hiadin Haloun he/him]

I think Spoilers are allowed right? 

Spoiler

Honorblades are the spren of Honor himself.  I don't know how that works, but the Storm Father tells Dalniar that they are in OB.  Ancient Soulcaster Fabrials still work using stormlight infused gems, which have spren inside of them.  The non fabrial magic uses the bond to connect to spren, and the spren grants the power.

 

[Hiadin Haloun he/him]

how did our conversation end up on this board?  can a mod please move the last three posts to the board that the original quote was from?

[Weltall]

We have reason to think that pre-Final Empire Scadrial was more Cosmere-aware than during Rashek's reign; Brandon has confirmed that Kwaan had some understanding of Realmatics for example and Brandon has said that the Worldbringers of Terris and the Worldsingers of Roshar have similar origins and the similarity of names is intentional. We know Hoid is affiliated with the latter but whether he founded them and whether he's connected to the Worldbringers has been RAFO'd. Anyhow, there's good speculation fodder there.

Despite all that, Alendi was probably not especially Cosmere-aware. He might have picked up some things from Kwaan but we know from WoB that Rashek (who would presumably have gotten a good education from the man as well) only learned about the existence of other worlds from the Well of Ascension and didn't have enough time to get more than a general idea that other worlds were out there. So Alendi would have known even less than that.

We can also be absolutely certain he hasn't worldhopped, otherwise he would have recognized Ruin's Perpendicularity for what it was when he describes it in his journal.

[Hiadin Haloun he/him]

good point about the shardpool thing, so i guess no worldhopping, but i think there might still be something to his culture.  I think the khlenni might have originally been refugees.  and they have legends about cognitive shadows.