ScavellTane Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 Shallan is not a Davar. Pattern came to her when she was very young. Pattern is attracted by lies, therefor Shallan would have to have crafted a pretty severe lie. I believe the 'Shallan Davar' identity was created when she joined the Davar family. I was never comfortable with her 'mother' choosing to kill her just because she was a surgebinder. I believe Shallan somehow merged the image of her birth mother with that of the Davar matriarch. Where did she came from then? The Ghostbloods. My theory is that they gave her to Lin Davar because of her red hair and that Lin was part Horneater. Mraize's comment that Shallan's family had long been involved with the Ghostbloods might not mean the Davars but her actually family. I got the distinct impression that Mraizes treatment of her changed when he found out that she was Shallan. Could she be related to Thaidakar somehow? What do you think?
Knghtstlker he/him Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 56 minutes ago, ScavellTane said: Shallan is not a Davar. Pattern came to her when she was very young. Pattern is attracted by lies, therefor Shallan would have to have crafted a pretty severe lie. I believe the 'Shallan Davar' identity was created when she joined the Davar family. I was never comfortable with her 'mother' choosing to kill her just because she was a surgebinder. I believe Shallan somehow merged the image of her birth mother with that of the Davar matriarch. Where did she came from then? The Ghostbloods. My theory is that they gave her to Lin Davar because of her red hair and that Lin was part Horneater. Mraize's comment that Shallan's family had long been involved with the Ghostbloods might not mean the Davars but her actually family. I got the distinct impression that Mraizes treatment of her changed when he found out that she was Shallan. Could she be related to Thaidakar somehow? What do you think? I have not read Edgedancer, but based on my knowledge of the books, at least Three of the Davar's prior to Shallan's knowledge of the existence of the Ghostbloods were associated with the Ghostbloods, Her Brother, Mother, and Father. Though I too am curious as to what lie brought Pattern to Shallan, I'd be interested to hear more about your theory, but thus far seems far fetched. Shallan wasn't Just a Surgebinder, She to the knowledge of her Mother, the First Surgebinder she had ever heard of on Roshar that was alive. Perhaps her mother feared what that meant. Jasnah had not discovered her surgebindings until at the very least around the time of the death of Gavilar. Kaladin began feeling his Surges when he was much younger, He in his very early 20's and Shallan I believe was stated to be 17 or 18 years old. That makes Shallan possibly one of the First to exhibit surgebinding in this new period of magix altogether. Though there is an interlude of an elderly man also exhibiting Surgebindings, it is not stated how long he had been healing children's feet. Anyone else have any input? If that was the case though, why didn't the Ghostbloods hear from Lin about it? Was it pre-meditated, or did the onset of perhaps another world shattering event with VoidBringers and Thunderclasts bring Lin's mind to snap? These are the real questions I think should have been brought up. The Ghostbloods don't seem inherently involved on killing Surgebinders, though someone out there is. It's not stated if it's the Ghostbloods or not, even inviting Shallan "Or Rather Veil" to continue to meet with the Ghost Bloods and see what they have to say. A quick google says that the last Desolation that occurred 4500 years ago. So why is the year quoted as in the 1170's? Anyone else have any theories?
kari-no-sugata Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Quote QUESTION Is Shallan's father actually her father? BRANDON SANDERSON Heh. People asked if her mother were actually her mother. No one's asked yet if her father was her father. Yes, it was her father. I will give you that. Her mother and father as presented in the story were actually her mother and father. http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kw=shallan+father Edited October 26, 2017 by kari-no-sugata 3
Starrisa Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 Well... there flies the theory but it was a good one XD
Karger he/him Posted September 11, 2019 Posted September 11, 2019 On 10/26/2017 at 10:32 AM, ScavellTane said: Well, dry nets. I was going to point out that she has several older brothers who would probably notice a girl showing up without her mother being pregnant.
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