Shinovar origins

[Gigalemesh he/him]

So I've seen this talked about in a few places, but wanted to put forward my ideas/thoughts about it.

We know Roshar, the planet and the continent, existed pre-shattering, but Shinovar is so different from the rest of Roshar that I think it must have specific origin seperate from the rest of Roshar.

My theory is that Shinovar was created by the shards after they arrived there, in the image of the life their vessels had seen.

This is based on the distinctive nature of the ecosystem. Obviously a big part of this is being shielded from highstorms which allows life there to not have to be adapted to them, but it is still quite remarkable that this entirely different ecosystem would have naturally evolved there, especially since it seems to be similar to Scadrial fauna and fluara, and since Scadrial is based on Yolen, similar to Yolen fluara and fuana.

So we have a region that is distinct from the rest Roshar, but similar to the homeworld of the shard vessels. This makes me think that Honour and Cultivation traveled to Roshar, and finding it so different from their home planet, one or both of them decided to make a little enclave of "normal" life there. Specifically it seems like something Cultivation would do, cultivating this area of land and the life in it.

I don't think this is too outlandish an idea, but I would love to hear what people think of it. Maybe I took longer to explain it than was strictly necessary, but I wanted to show what my thought process was. And apologies if this has been addressed before, or it seems obvious, but I haven't seen anything specifically saying it so thought it would be interesting to put it out there. 

[Wreith he/him]

1 hour ago, Gigalemesh said:

So I've seen this talked about in a few places, but wanted to put forward my ideas/thoughts about it.

We know Roshar, the planet and the continent, existed pre-shattering, but Shinovar is so different from the rest of Roshar that I think it must have specific origin seperate from the rest of Roshar.

My theory is that Shinovar was created by the shards after they arrived there, in the image of the life their vessels had seen.

This is based on the distinctive nature of the ecosystem. Obviously a big part of this is being shielded from highstorms which allows life there to not have to be adapted to them, but it is still quite remarkable that this entirely different ecosystem would have naturally evolved there, especially since it seems to be similar to Scadrial fauna and fluara, and since Scadrial is based on Yolen, similar to Yolen fluara and fuana.

So we have a region that is distinct from the rest Roshar, but similar to the homeworld of the shard vessels. This makes me think that Honour and Cultivation traveled to Roshar, and finding it so different from their home planet, one or both of them decided to make a little enclave of "normal" life there. Specifically it seems like something Cultivation would do, cultivating this area of land and the life in it.

I don't think this is too outlandish an idea, but I would love to hear what people think of it. Maybe I took longer to explain it than was strictly necessary, but I wanted to show what my thought process was. And apologies if this has been addressed before, or it seems obvious, but I haven't seen anything specifically saying it so thought it would be interesting to put it out there. 

You might want to consider getting involved in this thread:

 

That said, we know that Shin is one of the languages decended directly from the Dawnchant along with Parshendi, Horneater. This would seem to make it one of the earliest languages.
It doesn't necessarily disprove your theory, but it implies that the other two races came from somewhere else too but didn't get the special earth-eske treatment

[Gigalemesh he/him]

3 minutes ago, Wreith said:

You might want to consider getting involved in this thread:

 

That said, we know that Shin is one of the languages decended directly from the Dawnchant along with Parshendi, Horneater. This would seem to make it one of the earliest languages.
It doesn't necessarily disprove your theory, but it implies that the other two races came from somewhere else too but didn't get the special earth-eske treatment

Yeah I actually did post in that thread agreeing with someone who said they thought shinovar was created by Cultivation. I didn't want to take over that thread with a whole post and thought I'd present my idea here. Sorry if that's bad forum etiquette, this is the first forum I've been part of so I don't know.

While it is quite interesting that those three languages in particular would be related, and I'm sure there is lots of interesting stuff to unpack there, I don't think it says anything either way about my idea

[thejopen27 he/him]

I think the Shin are keeping old ways alive. They guard the honor blades, they know something of the Heralds, they know about surges and radiants. I wouldn't be surprised if Shin was like the Dawnchant because it never morphed as much because they still know it in SHinovar. I think Shinovar is an area of Roshar protected from storms and kept more Earthlike by Cultivation. She has cultivated a perfect garden and a cradle for humanity. She may no longer be actively doing this and it may just be a permanent protection.