Watchcry he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 I'm hoping and praying we at least learn what each of the orders can do and finally have clarity on what all the surges can do. I don't want to wait another 3-4 years to know what they all do. I just might go crazy. Which order / surge do you all want to learn more about? Me? For order I want to learn more about Truthwatchers because they're so secretive. I think/hope Truthwatchers will be like Atium mistings who can heal. For surge I'd like to learn more about division and cohesion. Comments?
+Extesian he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Oathbringer is the Bondsmith book so we'll find out plenty about them, and the existing ones. This EoB may enlighten Quote QUESTION Are we going to hear much about Dustbringers in the near future? BRANDON SANDERSON Yes, but it’s going to be very slight for a little while. I’m intentionally digging into these magics somewhat slowly, all the different orders, just we can get used to them. They’re one of the later ones. Let’s talk more about Bondsmiths and Skybreakers before we do that. I'm looking forward to the skybreakers. I want to know about dustbringers (who he elsewhere describes as 'really weird").
Pagerunner he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Forget Surgebinding. I want to get the full workup for fabrials! 6 hours ago, Extesian said: I want to know about dustbringers (who he elsewhere describes as 'really weird"). It's not that Dustbringers are weird - it's the question of whether or not we have met a Dustbringer. Or someone who will be a Dustbringer. (Maybe it's part of the weird things going on with Ash.) 3
Watchcry he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Author Posted July 5, 2017 I at least want to know the basic fundamentals around what they're about. I hate speculation.
Calderis he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, ANRILU said: I at least want to know the basic fundamentals around what they're about. I hate speculation. Well, We've seen both of the Truthwatcher surges already. We know how Lightweaving works better than most surges, and we have a good idea on the basics of Progression. The only things to speculate on with them are their oaths and their Resonance. Which I think makes an Atium-like ability pretty unlikely.
nervousnerd he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 I am sure we will find out a lot but it is going to be like Mistborn where there is still so much more to learn. We mostly only learn as the characters learn and it will take some time to introduce members of each order.
Watchcry he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Author Posted July 5, 2017 This is my thing: Dalinar is bonded to the StormFather for crying out loud. He has observed radiants for millennia, hasn't he? He should be able to explain a lot to Dalinar about more than just orders and surges once their bond becomes stronger. Am I wrong?
Calderis he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ANRILU said: This is my thing: Dalinar is bonded to the StormFather for crying out loud. He has observed radiants for millennia, hasn't he? He should be able to explain a lot to Dalinar about more than just orders and surges once their bond becomes stronger. Am I wrong? You're assuming that the Stormfather is going to be cooperative. The interaction we've seen between them so far shows a grudging acceptance of the bond. Unless that changes, he doesn't seem inclined to be very helpful. He sent an extra highstorm in the middle of the weeping to wash away their corpses and said that it was "all he could do." The Stormfather seems compelled to have accepted the words. I think this is from Tanavast's Cognitive Shadow having merged with him, just like he had to give the visions. His interactions with Kaladin and Syl and Dalinar though... Those seem to be the actions of a severely depressed individual who just wants everything to be done. I don't think he's going to be any more helpful than he absolutely has to be. Edited July 5, 2017 by Calderis 4
DocHoliday he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Got.to.agree with Calderis about the Stormfather. However the Alethi are now in Urithiru, presumably Shallon's role there will be research into voidbringer. Is there any reason to assume we arnt going to have a wealth of knowledge to dig through?
+Extesian he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Calderis said: You're assuming that the Stormfather is going to be cooperative. The interaction we've seen between them so far shows a grudging acceptance of the bond. Unless that changes, he doesn't seem inclined to be very helpful. He sent an extra highstorm in the middle of the weeping to wash away their corpses and said that it was "all he could do." The Stormfather seems compelled to have accepted the words. I think this is from Tanavast's Cognitive Shadow having merged with him, just like he had to give the visions. His interactions with Kaladin and Syl and Dalinar though... Those seem to be the actions of a severely depressed individual who just wants everything to be done. I don't think he's going to be any more helpful than he absolutely has to be. I agree and add to it the WoB i posted elsewhere Quote Q: The visions Dalinar gets in WoK always struck me as odd - you don't just look at the past, you are able to act within this experience. Now we know that Gavilar was also on the way to being a Bondsmith - was he acting in a different way? Were the visions only basically the same but different in the end depending on the personal reactions? Is this something like a test?A: He did see the same visions. They were the same thing. But... I will say that his reaction to them were very different from Dalinar's reactions to them. Anyway it was difficult for the Stormfather without a bond to determine/to tell the difference between very easily. When Spren are bonded, they gain a lot more ability to understand the world around then, so you'll find out soon more stuff about this in the third book. That implies the Stormfather may not be as aware of what's going on in the Physical Realm as people may assume
nervousnerd he/him Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 22 minutes ago, Extesian said: I agree and add to it the WoB i posted elsewhere That implies the Stormfather may not be as aware of what's going on in the Physical Realm as people may assume I believe that it was mentioned that he survived being bonded during the Recreance as well so he could have lost some of himself there as well.
Kered he/him Posted July 7, 2017 Posted July 7, 2017 (edited) I'm looking forward to learning about the Willshapers. I always thought of them in my head as people with solid oratory skills and good leadership instincts. Which would be cool to, basically the pep talkers for the KR. But, then I remembered this. Which makes me think of them as class clowns now, which would also make for good reading. “And now, if there was an uncut gem among the Radiance, it was the Willshapers; for though enterprising, they were erratic, and Invia wrote of them, 'capricious, frustrating, unreliable,' as taking it for granted that others would agree; this may have been an intolerant view, as often Invia expressed, for this order was said to be most varied, inconsistent in temperament save for a general love of adventure, novelty, or oddity. ” Which now makes me think of them as class clowns, which would I guess also make for good reading. Edited July 7, 2017 by Kered 1
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