Brightlord M. Alhstrom he/him Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) Has anyone considered that Hoid might be a shard? A shard who somehow managed not to get tied down to a single planet, who found a way to condense all of his shardness into a single humanoid body, and has since been trying to grab pieces of the investiture of the other Shards? I know we have a WoB that says that he isn't quite a sliver, but he also seemed to imply that he isn't quite not a sliver. This might be completely off the mark, but it could be cool: One of the Worldhoppers we all follow is actually a Shard. Lets keep in mind two things: There is a shard who is simply trying to survive. And there is a shard that isn't tied to a planet. Edited June 23, 2017 by Lord Maelstrom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no. But worth asking. Quote T.T. 5. Is Hoid a Herald, or a Shardholder, or something else entirely. Brandon Sanderson (Goodreads) 5. Hoid is something else entirely. Quote Question What's the other god in Scadrial...Trell… or whatnot... [...] mentioning him, are there other really powerful beings out there that aren't related to the Shards? Brandon Sanderson There are possibly really powerful beings, but… how should we say. [long pause] I mean...There are those who would call Hoid a really powerful being, who exist outside Shards, but if you're talking deific level things in the Cosmere, they're all related to the Shards. Or demigod level. Quote The Only Joe Was Hoid offered one of the Shards we know about. Brandon Sanderson You know, I can't remember which Shard I've shown you, Wait, no I haven't shown you that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagerunner he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 @Extesian, where's that last one from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pagerunner said: @Extesian, where's that last one from? I'd never seen it before today Pagerunner, it's beautiful. Jan 2015. So could be Ambition? But otherwise must be one we still haven't seen, if I'm remembering dates correctly. http://theoryland.com/intvmain.php?i=1123 Edited June 23, 2017 by Extesian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kered he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) This is my favorite WoB when it comes to Hoid and Shard talk. Peaked my interest. QUESTION If Hoid were tempted by a Shard, which one would it be? BRANDON SANDERSON Endowment. Now that I'm re-reading this, could it be Endowment @Extesian? We haven't technically seen the shard/vessel yet, just the influences. Above is an interview from August 2013. http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt='endowment' Edited June 23, 2017 by Kered 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Extesian he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, Kered said: This is my favorite WoB when it comes to Hoid and Shard talk. Peaked my interest. QUESTION If Hoid were tempted by a Shard, which one would it be? BRANDON SANDERSON Endowment. Now that I'm re-reading this, could it be Endowment @Extesian? We haven't technically seen the shard/vessel yet, just the influences. Above is an interview from August 2013. http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt='endowment' Ah I'd forgotten about that one. Yeah it is good. I don't believe so though, because he's confirmed that the Voice that calls back Lightsong is Endowment. You can argue we haven't 'seen' that Shard but it's a stretch, that's more than just influence. Quote ZAS678 I know that we've "interacted with two directly" (the pool in Elantris, and The Voice that called Lightsong back to life) that we've "seen it's power" (Dahkhor??) and another that we've seen their infulence (I have no idea on this one, though I think it might be whatever pointed out Aon Rao in Elantris to Raoden) BRANDON SANDERSON Nice guesses on most of those. You've got some things right. You've got some things wrong. The only thing I'll confirm (and I don't think I've said this before) is that The Voice is, indeed, one of the Shards of Adonalsium. (Endowment is that Shard's true name, by the way.) The other reason is the wording. The 'if' could refer to the fact that he may Gabe taken up a Shard if it was Endowment, but because it wasn't, he didn't. I can't rule it out though, it's a good connection. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storming Radiant he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 We do have these two quotes in SH from Leras, and I took them fo meaning that Hoid is not a shard. Quote “Aaah…” Fuzz said softly. “I had thought that when he rejected the rest of us, he would stop interfering. Quote “He stole a bit of my essence, distilled and pure,” Fuzz explained. “It can Invest a human, grant him or her Allomancy.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari he/him Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Storming Radiant said: We do have these two quotes in SH from Leras, and I took them fo meaning that Hoid is not a shard. Sure, as others have quoted WoBs above, he's been pretty clear that Hoid doesn't hold any shards, and there are implications in both the Letters from SA and in Secret History, like you quoted just there, that he either declined to get involved with or actively opposed the Shattering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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