Stormlightning she/her Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 I haven't seen any good threads on this topic, so correct me if I'm wrong. In WoR Interlude 4, Eshonai indicates that one of the Honorblades, which was somehow in the possession of the Parshendi, was 'left' with the Alethi the night Gavilar was assassinated. Question #1: We know that the 9 Honorblades were left altogether by Jezrien and Kalak, where most were recovered by the Shin. It seems clear that no other peoples actually know the Shin have the Honorblades. So how in the world did the Parshendi get one? Particularly concerning their Voidbringer history at that time... I can only imagine, and this is a bit of a stretch, that it's related to the Parshendi's theorized connection to the Dysian Aimians. #2: If an Honorblade really was left that night...where is it now? It's possible they were just referring to Szeth's Blade, but that just seems like an obviously false lead to me since that was clearly given to him by the Shin, plus that wouldn't explain why the Shin only have 7 (8=Szeths, 9=Talns 10=Parshendi). Then the additional "stolen" one mentioned by Taravangian could be Nalan's. That's all a bit hazy to me. At one point I thought it could be Oathbringer, but I've mostly discarded that theory. I did think it could be with Jasnah, although she seemed to be very new to her Surgebinding at that time. But she seems one that might take off with it and not tell anyone about her newfound powers, plus she was the one that watched her father die and was there when they arrested and executed the Parshendi leaders. I imagine one of them would have had it. There's been no mention of Jasnah being a known Shardbearer, but I suppose if her family knew she bonded a Blade that night(thinking it an ordinary Shardblade), they might want it to be covert that she has one. She could be a false Elsecaller, or she could be a true Elsecaller with additional abilities granted by the Honorblade. Someone else. Perhaps it was added to the stash of King's Blades, which would be quite funny. I feel like I'm missing some important things here. Any thoughts?
Calderis he/him Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 She has to be referring to Szeth's blade. The Shin had all of the Honorblades except Taln's until Nale reclaimed his. So the Honorblades at this moment are 7 with the Shin, Jezrien's currently at Urithiru, Nale's Blade, and Taln's (whereabouts unknown) 2
Weltall Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 Yeah, it has to be the one Szeth was carrying. Szeth and Taravangian's conversation in the WoR Interlude refers to 'one of the other seven' when the latter lies about an Honorblade being stolen, which explicitly excludes Szeth's and since we know where Taln and Nale's Blades are (or were, for the former) we know that there aren't any more of the things floating around that could have been left behind. At least, not without some serious mental gymnastics that would make Occam's Razor weep.
Stormlightning she/her Posted May 22, 2017 Author Posted May 22, 2017 You may be right, and I'm just over thinking it. It just seems to be a really strange thing for the Parshendi to say since the Blade was never theirs--they couldn't command Szeth to give it up, and they didn't give it to him. I thought perhaps Nalan didn't collect his Blade until that time with Taravangian, although I know that has holes since the Skybreakers have been doing some sort of stuff for years. It's just yelling at me...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted May 22, 2017 Posted May 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Stormlightning said: It just seems to be a really strange thing for the Parshendi to say since the Blade was never theirs--they couldn't command Szeth to give it up, and they didn't give it to him. They had the Oathstone of the owner of said blade. That qualifies as it being "theirs," from a certain point of view. All I remember from Eshonai's line was "we left one[Honorblade] in Alethkar that night", which doesn't imply ownership. If I'm forgetting an important part of the full quote, that's on me, but leaving Szeth's Oathstone in Alethkar is essentially leaving Szeth's Honorblade in Alethkar. 1
DustBringer94 he/him Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 On 5/21/2017 at 11:44 PM, Calderis said: She has to be referring to Szeth's blade. The Shin had all of the Honorblades except Taln's until Nale reclaimed his. So the Honorblades at this moment are 7 with the Shin, Jezrien's currently at Urithiru, Nale's Blade, and Taln's (whereabouts unknown) i wasn't aware that Jezrien's blade wasn't with the shin. Did I miss something?
Calderis he/him Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 Just now, DustBringer94 said: i wasn't aware that Jezrien's blade wasn't with the shin. Did I miss something? Jezrien's Blade is the one Szeth used.
DustBringer94 he/him Posted May 23, 2017 Posted May 23, 2017 i realized this as *facepalm* for a moment i had forgotten he was the leader of the windrunners.
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