Where parshmen sleep

[Betrail]

Parshmen are valuable, even if you are indifferent towards them as most are, you would not want to risk losing them due to high storms. Which leads me to my question...  

Has anyone asked where they sleep? If they are inside a closed building should they not be protected from the storm?

Which brings me to the assumption that shallan herself caused a wide scale desolation rather than a contained uprising +new storm.

[Spoolofwhool]

Shallan told him to leave them behind, not murder them. I see no reason to think they would've just left them outside to die, especially considering there were no predicted storms until the end of the Weepings. Furthermore, I don't recall anything which showed that happening.  

Edgedancer does not have an applicable argument since no one in that area believed Dalinar when he warned them of the Everstorm, so they would have no reason to throw their parshmen out to die. 

In any case, I found something applicable.

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QUESTION

A dullform Listener is indoors when the Everstorm passes over, will they be transformed into a Voidform?

BRANDON SANDERSON

No. It depends on the strength of the boundary between them, but it is possible for them to...Being transformed, taking new forms, there is a measure of will behind it, meaning for instance, even when Eshonai took the new form, she had herself open to taking a new form. By the time she didn’t want to, it was too late. But she had made the decision, even though she’d been kind of misled in some ways. If a parshmen were even in the Everstorm, and aggressively didn't want this to happen, I'm not saying they won't, but there is room for discussion whether or not they would change there. But also one who DOES want to, and there's only a pane of glass and things like that, then yeah.

[Source]

 

[Spoolofwhool]

45 minutes ago, Betrail said:

Has anyone asked where they sleep? If they are inside a closed building should they not be protected from the storm?

I believe Tvlakv in WoR kept his parshmen in the guarded carts. I presume that something like that is standard practice, and in normal structures they're kept inside. Do you have any reason to believe that they aren't kept indoors?

48 minutes ago, Betrail said:

Which brings me to the assumption that shallan herself caused a wide scale desolation rather than a contained uprising +new storm.

I'm not seeing how that assumption is reached. Could you elaborate? The Everstorm is the reason why parshmen are transforming. Previously, having your parshmen out in a highstorm would do nothing, other than put them in harm's way.

[iamstick]

If the Parshmen were kept inside, they'd probably not change. Pushing them into the storm probably created a much larger and widespread issue of voidbringers at a single point in time. Not good.

[Betrail]

Yeah, shallan tells dalnair to exile them, leaving them behind and in the example inside edgedancer. 

People are following orders to put them out in the storm to die presumably  (I assume, or at least got that impression) so i am going more on an extremist side of it since if word spreads around I could totally see everyone leaving the out to die in what would be seen as a dangerous storm.

 

And i was saying highstorms since that would be where they would hide in the storm. But if they are safe then there wouldn't be any concern if parshmen are safe inside out of the storm.

[Betrail]

3 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

Shallan told him to leave them behind, not murder them. I see no reason to think they would've just left them outside to die, especially considering there were no predicted storms until the end of the Weepings. Furthermore, I don't recall anything which showed that happening.  

Edgedancer does not have an applicable argument since no one in that area believed Dalinar when he warned them of the Everstorm, so they would have no reason to throw their parshmen out to die. 

In any case, I found something applicable.

 

Hmm, i listen to the audio, but I thought

 

Spoiler

Darkness when fighting with lift looked out in the courtyard and saw parshmen transforming. Or at least with glowing eyes. But maybe not then. Since there wasn't a after storm battle.

Regardless that wob kinda answers that. Now I am just curious if they sleep on bed rolls or beds and what the rooms look like.

[Spoolofwhool]

58 minutes ago, Betrail said:

Hmm, i listen to the audio, but I thought

 

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Darkness when fighting with lift looked out in the courtyard and saw parshmen transforming. Or at least with glowing eyes. But maybe not then. Since there wasn't a after storm battle.

Regardless that wob kinda answers that. Now I am just curious if they sleep on bed rolls or beds and what the rooms look like.

Them being outside in the middle of an unscheduled storm does not mean that people deliberately put them out there with the intention of killing them. As I pointed out before, no one believed Dalinar when he said they were dangerous.

[Betrail]

2 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said:

Them being outside in the middle of an unscheduled storm does not mean that people deliberately put them out there with the intention of killing them. As I pointed out before, no one believed Dalinar when he said they were dangerous.

Haha while i would agree with you this us a city where people live in almost absolute order once someone decides something the city finished remarkably fast on the scale of cities. And it all finished at least with 30 minutes before the storm came and i feel like i am being tough on the timeline there. (As lift traveled the city running, attempting to slide and failing slowing her more).

The people of the city would not simply forget or overlook parshmen slaves. As there would be A LOT of paperwork after that.

[Spoolofwhool]

1 hour ago, Betrail said:

The people of the city would not simply forget or overlook parshmen slaves. As there would be A LOT of paperwork after that.

The same arguments exists for people deliberately putting them out there. Regardless, there still needs to be a reason for people to have wanted to put them out there and I don't think "Fear that they would be become voidbringers indoors" was an actual one. If they actually accepted and believed that they would've, they would have just killed them. Sticking them outside does literally nothing to solve that problem.

I would have to have a copy of Edgedancer again to really argue this point any futher though.  

[+Extesian he/him]

I'll just point out that in Edgedancer it was a deliberate policy to imprison them or put them out in the Everstorm. 

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“All people are to get off the streets and go to storm bunkers, and parshmen are to be imprisoned or exiled into the storm."

Location 9556 of Arcanum Unbounded kindle version

That was by order of the prince. So clearly they were worried enough about the warnings about the parshmen to worry that something bad would happen if they were free amongst the population, but not worried enough to execute them instead. I actually agree that a warning like Shallan's, if taken a bit seriously but not seriously enough, probably led to this result elsewhere.