dalinar theory

[Stormfather]

So if this has been put out there, sorry.  I didn't find it in my searches.

 

While I was thinking about Shards and the Cosmere it hit me that in the overall story there is a struggle to rebuild Adonalsium.  What if the Stormlight Archive was really about the rebirth of Honor?  The splinters will eventually have to be reformed into a shard, and who better to be the reborn shard than Dalinar?  He already has Tanvast visiting him and his character leans towards Honor anyway.  Afterall Harmony is going to need someone to work with down the road.

 

Thoughts?

[QuantumHarmonix he/him]

That has occurred to me before as well. I just don't think there is any evidence to say for sure that is where the story is going. It would be interesting if Odium is defeated in the first 5 books, leaving the last 5 to chronicle a new Shards attempts to take up all of the remaining Shards in the Cosmere.

[Stormfather]

I don't think Odium will be defeated in the first 5. I see it more like at the end of book 5 Dalinar will become the new Honor (possibly only gaining a splinter instead of the entire shard) and the next 5 will be him getting ready to take on Odium and gaining the rest of the shard

[QuantumHarmonix he/him]

That's definitely possible, but there is still the problem that we just don't have enough evidence yet. The theory applies equally well to most point of view characters right now, so Kaladin or Hoid would make almost as much sense as Dalinar.  But like I said I got a very similar vibe. I felt that Dalinar would gather the pieces of Honor and in so doing become Honor, then Kaladin would be his first new Herald and champion against Odium. 

[Chlehrma]

I think book 5 will end with them overcoming the desolation/odium and the second arc will deal with retaking the tranquiline halls, perhaps with cross over characters from other series.

[Bloodfalcon he/him]

I think book 5 will end with them overcoming the desolation/odium and the second arc will deal with retaking the tranquiline halls, perhaps with cross over characters from other series.

I was disappointed to find a quote recently saying that the book we are hoping for - one with characters from all the different series - is only tentative and may not be written. If it is written, it will be at the very end of Brandon's career, and only if there is still interest in his writing. So. I hope things have changed, but I don't think you'll see much crossover in Stormlight Archive. 

[Stormfather]

I was disappointed to find a quote recently saying that the book we are hoping for - one with characters from all the different series - is only tentative and may not be written. If it is written, it will be at the very end of Brandon's career, and only if there is still interest in his writing. So. I hope things have changed, but I don't think you'll see much crossover in Stormlight Archive. 

Where did you see that quote?

[Stormfather]

That's definitely possible, but there is still the problem that we just don't have enough evidence yet. The theory applies equally well to most point of view characters right now, so Kaladin or Hoid would make almost as much sense as Dalinar.  But like I said I got a very similar vibe. I felt that Dalinar would gather the pieces of Honor and in so doing become Honor, then Kaladin would be his first new Herald and champion against Odium. 

I agree that it does seem like Kaladin will become the champion, but you think there will be new Heralds all together?  None will reform once Honor is put back together?

[Bloodfalcon he/him]

Where did you see that quote?

Brandon:

So I felt that if I was going to have a supermyth, so to speak — an overarching paradigm for these books — it would have to have a number of things. One, it would have to be limited in scope, meaning I wasn't going to try to cram everything into it. That's why Alcatraz is not involved in any of this. Number two, I would have to plan it from the beginning, and number three, I would want it to be subtle. In other words, I don't want it to come to dominate any of the stories because I want the books, the series, to stand on their own.

 

 

BRANDON SANDERSON

It depends on what Brandon decides to do. We also might or might not get the rest of the story (pre-story). From a market standpoint it's not wise, simply because if the books require you to have read 32 other books before you read them it doesn't make sense to work on them. However, if the demand is high enough he MIGHT do them after all of the rest of the cosmere books.

 

You might be interested in going to Theoryland and searching for "Cosmere" or other terms. It pulls up a lot of things that get burried. 

[Stormfather]

Thanks

[Pinpoint he/him]

"Unite them"

We have been thinking that means to unite Roshar. Maybe it means Unite the Shards. In other words, Restoring Adonalsium 

Edited February 3, 2014 by Pinpoint

[Awesomeness Summoned he/him]

My interpretation from the two times he's talked about it is that he is specifically talking about uniting the Radiants. I'm sure uniting the kingdoms would be helpful too but

he says that in the WoR excerpt directly after talking about the radiants and how they were formed by the spren in imitation of the Heralds (in the same paragraph).

 

It was the spren—wishing to imitate what I had given men—who made it possible. You will need to refound them. This is your task. Unite them.

 

Or I guess he could be specifically saying unite the spren with the KR

Edited February 3, 2014 by aWESomeness summoned

[Bloodfalcon he/him]

My interpretation from the two times he's talked about it is that he is specifically talking about uniting the Radiants. I'm sure uniting the kingdoms would be helpful too but

he says that in the WoR excerpt directly after talking about the radiants and how they were formed by the spren in imitation of the Heralds (in the same paragraph).

 

 

Or I guess he could be specifically saying unite the spren with the KR

Thanks for linking that. I was trying to find it but I couldn't. I was almost disappointed that we found out so definitely,  

[Awesomeness Summoned he/him]

Thanks for linking that. I was trying to find it but I couldn't. I was almost disappointed that we found out so definitely,

I was actually kind of happy to read that. It came in the typical Brandonesque fashion where Dalinar is convinced the Almighty is telling him to unite the High Princes. He's been putting all his energy into uniting them (almost getting killed in the process) but as it turns out he was just supposed to be reforming the radiants. It doesn't appear that Dalinar even recognized the discrepancy. He's still got the KR as a goal but it still seems to be only a side project and is still working to unite the princes under his rule.

Edited February 3, 2014 by aWESomeness summoned

[Bloodfalcon he/him]

I was actually kind of happy to read that. It came in the typical Brandonesque fashion where Dalinar is convinced the Almighty is telling him to unite the High Princes. He's been putting all his energy into uniting them (almost getting killed in the process) but as it turns out he was just supposed to be reforming the radiants. It doesn't appear that Dalinar even recognized the discrepancy. He's still got the KR as a goal but it still seems to be only a side project and is still working to unite the princes under his rule.

Right, right. I understand the appeal, but I also thought it was the KR from the start, like the second time I read the quote "Unite them" and assumed Dalinar was wrong. So I was almost hoping that I was wrong and it would be a surprise for both Dalinar and myself.