Kinnsayyy Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Does anyone know if Cognitive Shadows can use an Unkeyed metal mind, if it was physically brought into the cognitive realm? For example if someone traveled through a shard pool with one, could Kelsier use it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 Pagerunner Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Good question. I'd say it depends on the specifics of how medallions work and what Cognitive Shadows are, both of which are still mysteries, so I can't give you a true answer. I can see both sides, though. For: We do know that the medallions interact with your sDNA (and trick it into thinking you have abilities you don't), and even though Kelsier lost his abilities when he became a Cognitive Shadow, I don't think he lost his spiritweb entirely. As I understand them, Cognitive Shadows are when a Physical aspect of a person has split off, but their Spiritual and Cognitive are still being held together (due to effects of holding too much Investiture). So, as long as Kelsier still has a Spiritual aspect, he should be able to use medallions. Against: The Physical component is still important for medallions. It requires you to touch something, to come in physical contact with the medallion, and Kelsier can't physically touch anything because he lost his Physical component. Even if he could get abilities, many manifest on the Physical Realm; strength, weight, etc. Even if he could use Spiritual Feruchemy, I don't think he'd be able to use Physical Feruchemy. So, there are a lot of Realmatics behind this question, and I think either answer is plausible. We'll have to wait until we get more information on both subjects, medallions and Cognitive Shadows to know for sure. (Guess we'll be waiting 'til Secret History 2!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Tsidqiyah Posted March 24, 2017 Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Secret History Spoiler: Spoiler The fact Kelseir used Nazh's knife says yes he could handle the medallion. But i don't think the feruchemy would work in the Cognitive realm at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kinnsayyy Posted March 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2017 Nazh's knife was the reason I was thinking it would work. I was thinking that maybe Kel could use something like the medallion to return to the physical realm. Maybe through identity or connection. Spoiler We already know he knows about them and how to make them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Does anyone know if Cognitive Shadows can use an Unkeyed metal mind, if it was physically brought into the cognitive realm? For example if someone traveled through a shard pool with one, could Kelsier use it?
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