Can lashing cause an earthquake?

[Sallin Zeras he/him]

I have been wondering, if say, Kaladin touches the ground and infuses it ten times to lash it forward, would it cause an earthquake?

Edited December 9, 2016 by Talanelat'Elin Stonesinew

[Spoolofwhool]

He would need enough Stormlight to invest all of Roshar, since I have no doubt that it is cognitively viewed as one object... so probably not, since assuming he had enough stormlight to actually do that, no, since he would be moving the entire planet. Also, I feel like there would be other factors at play which would prevent the general investing of a planet, maybe because shards have already invested it.

[Sallin Zeras he/him]

11 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said:

He would need enough Stormlight to invest all of Roshar, since I have no doubt that it is cognitively viewed as one object... so probably not, since assuming he had enough stormlight to actually do that, no, since he would be moving the entire planet. Also, I feel like there would be other factors at play which would prevent the general investing of a planet, maybe because shards have already invested it.

That's, kind of confusing. What if he does have enough Stormlight? I mean, stuff can be invested twice, at least I think it's possible

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

17 minutes ago, Talanelat'Elin Stonesinew said:

That's, kind of confusing. What if he does have enough Stormlight? I mean, stuff can be invested twice, at least I think it's possible

OK so in the cognitive realm you have seen spheres which represent  objects, these are the embodiements of the cognitive aspects of the physical thing. Roshar is seen as a single mass, a planet, so in shadesmar it would appear as a single being.

The amount of stormligt needed to invest in something that large would be incredible. At least equal to TLRs investiture 

Some shards have already invested into roshar such as odium, cultivation and honor. And we've seen some of the products of this investiture clash. 

Oh and kaladin would have to be pretty cosmere aware to be able to understand the amount of power needed as well as an In depth knowledge of how investiture works.

But to go back to your original question kal won't be able to. But perhaps honor back when he was alive might have been able to do so.

[Spoolofwhool]

28 minutes ago, Talanelat'Elin Stonesinew said:

That's, kind of confusing. What if he does have enough Stormlight? I mean, stuff can be invested twice, at least I think it's possible

Stuff can be invested twice, but investiture interferes with investiture. That's why it's harder to push on metalminds and shardblades, and why it would be effectively impossible to allomantically burn a shardblade, because it's so invested.

[Sallin Zeras he/him]

16 minutes ago, Mesa the Ookla said:

OK so in the cognitive realm you have seen spheres which represent  objects, these are the embodiements of the cognitive aspects of the physical thing. Roshar is seen as a single mass, a planet, so in shadesmar it would appear as a single being.

The amount of stormligt needed to invest in something that large would be incredible. At least equal to TLRs investiture 

Some shards have already invested into roshar such as odium, cultivation and honor. And we've seen some of the products of this investiture clash. 

Oh and kaladin would have to be pretty cosmere aware to be able to understand the amount of power needed as well as an In depth knowledge of how investiture works.

But to go back to your original question kal won't be able to. But perhaps honor back when he was alive might have been able to do so.

This gave me another question, could TLR push on all of the metals in Scadrial by using duralumin?

[Darkness Ascendant he/him]

1 minute ago, Talanelat'Elin Stonesinew said:

This gave me another question, could TLR push on all of the metals in Scadrial by using duralumin?

If he knew duralumin existed, I guess he could have pushed all the metal in elendel.

to push on all the metals in scadrial would rip it apart like that rust magneto did. Maybe just after he ascended? 

[Sallin Zeras he/him]

8 minutes ago, Mesa the Ookla said:

If he knew duralumin existed, I guess he could have pushed all the metal in elendel.

to push on all the metals in scadrial would rip it apart like that rust magneto did. Maybe just after he ascended? 

That would be cool to see once someone is powerful enough to do it, maybe with the Bands of Mourning.

[Weltall]

I'm pretty sure that trying to Push on an entire planet or even a city-sized chunk of it wouldn't produce enough energy to hurt the planet that much, but in the absence of an anchor behind them it would potentially give the Allomancer who tried it a lesson in orbital mechanics. Hope they don't need to, y'know, breathe. And they might want to bring some heavy sunblock.

That aside, using Allomancy to Push a planet would be monstrously redundant, since the only way you could have anywhere near that kind of power would be if you Ascended, at which point you wouldn't need specific applications of Allomancy (or Surgebinding) to move a planet, you'd just will it to be done.

[Spoolofwhool]

First of all, duralumin would not give you enough power to be able to get a steel line in the entire planet. I doubt you would get a line more than 1 kilometer down, and that seems like a huge stretch. Secondly, assuming you could somehow do that, I'm pretty sure that duralumin enhancement does not get around the issue that the force of a steelpush is applied to the entity with the lower mass. Since TLR would obviously be lighter than Scadrial, he would be pushed. I suppose if he combined an ironpull and a steelpush, something could happen, but I still doubt it.