Yata he/him Posted December 8, 2016 Author Posted December 8, 2016 26 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said: I think I saw a paraphrased WoB in one of the event topics which described the mechanics of Elsecalling as essentially just creating a micro-perpendicularity for a moment so that the Elsecaller can transition between the realms. this is interesting, of course it's a completely different scale...but it's interesting as possibility with relative small Investiture. This may tell us more about Worldhopping's options with other magic Systems
Magestar he/him Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 On 12/8/2016 at 7:50 AM, Spoolofwhool said: I think I saw a paraphrased WoB in one of the event topics which described the mechanics of Elsecalling as essentially just creating a micro-perpendicularity for a moment so that the Elsecaller can transition between the realms. This is extremely interesting to me. The other perpendicularities we have seen usually have extremely large quantities of investiture. However, Shallan entered Shadesmar with just one sphere. I think it must be that they can 'pierce' the realms in a way we haven't really seen before. On 12/8/2016 at 8:17 AM, Yata said: this is interesting, of course it's a completely different scale...but it's interesting as possibility with relative small Investiture. This may tell us more about Worldhopping's options with other magic Systems On that note, another interesting thing is what happens when you duralumin flare Atium, or Flare the Eleventh Metal. It causes sort of a bubble in the realms, which doesn't allow you to travel them, but appears to just let you transcend them momentarily. I was reading SH and thinking about that the other day, and it struck me as a possible way to world hop using the Scadrian Magic system.
Yata he/him Posted December 10, 2016 Author Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Magestar said: This is extremely interesting to me. The other perpendicularities we have seen usually have extremely large quantities of investiture. However, Shallan entered Shadesmar with just one sphere. I think it must be that they can 'pierce' the realms in a way we haven't really seen before. Notice that in that case Shallan project herself into the Cognitive, but not fully. She didn't actual travel across the realms
natc Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Interfacing with cognitive aspects would logically be an innate function of Transformation (which causes soulcasting), and popping your senses over there to pick out the aspect seems like the most intuitive way for a surgebinder to experience it. Soulcasting can't really be completely cheap but clearly one fabrial's worth of infused gemstones is enough to get the job done several times in a row on simple changes. Elsecalling to its full limit would entail using up massive amounts of power to instantaneously create a perpendicularity and force your physical aspect through, and I don't think even the books have shown it done it more than . . . once? They don't even directly mention it, because the viewpoint character didn't know it happened. Edited December 10, 2016 by natc
Spoolofwhool Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 15 minutes ago, natc said: Elsecalling to its full limit would entail using up massive amounts of power to instantaneously create a perpendicularity and force your physical aspect through, and I don't think even the books have shown it done it more than . . . once? They don't even directly mention it, because the viewpoint character didn't know it happened. There is a scene, though I'm not sure how released it is since it isn't in the books, so I'll put it in spoilers. Spoiler Jasnah escape from the ship has been written from her point of view, including her shift into Shadesmare in order to do so. I don't recall any important details though.
Ironeyes Posted December 10, 2016 Posted December 10, 2016 3 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said: There is a scene, though I'm not sure how released it is since it isn't in the books, so I'll put it in spoilers. Reveal hidden contents Jasnah escape from the ship has been written from her point of view, including her shift into Shadesmare in order to do so. I don't recall any important details though. You beat me to the punch, I was going to mention that. Here's the link to the scene (on Tor's website) http://www.tor.com/2014/08/06/stormlight-archive-scene-after-words-of-radiance/
Dahak he/him Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 On 07/12/2016 at 3:05 PM, Argent said: On topic, Brandon RAFO'd the question about whether the highstorms are/contain Honor's perpendicularity. He did say that it (Honor's perpendicularity) is moving though. But that just means it could be that Honor's perpendicularity is currently attached to Lift. Who is nearer to the Cognitive realm and easier for spren to travel to than she should otherwise be.
Spoolofwhool Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 7 minutes ago, Dahak said: But that just means it could be that Honor's perpendicularity is currently attached to Lift. Who is nearer to the Cognitive realm and easier for spren to travel to than she should otherwise be. Probably not. The investiture creating the perpendicularity would be noticeable, and we don't see any sign of that around her. Her being closer to the CR is likely as a result of the Old Magic.
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