Cloud Farren Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 What would be the Extra ability of the Atium if this happened? Would it overpower someone else using Atium? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Kholin he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 It would be useless since a duralumin uses your atium reserves in one go which in an atrium battle will instantly cost you your life as an atium battle is a battle who has more not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savanorn he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 47 minutes ago, Cloud Farren said: What would be the Extra ability of the Atium if this happened? Would it overpower someone else using Atium? We actually know this. Elend did this fighting Marsh at the end of HoA. I'm pretty sure duralumi/atium lets you see further ahead to the consequences of your actions. So, more or less, Elend knew that if Marsh killed him Vin would kill Ruin and Sazed would save the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Farren Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Savanorn said: We actually know this. Elend did this fighting Marsh at the end of HoA. I'm pretty sure duralumi/atium lets you see further ahead to the consequences of your actions. So, more or less, Elend knew that if Marsh killed him Vin would kill Ruin and Sazed would save the world. Thx for the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savanorn he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Just now, Cloud Farren said: Thx for the answer No problems CL. Out of curiosity have you read all of Mistborn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Kholin he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, Savanorn said: We actually know this. Elend did this fighting Marsh at the end of HoA. I'm pretty sure duralumi/atium lets you see further ahead to the consequences of your actions. So, more or less, Elend knew that if Marsh killed him Vin would kill Ruin and Sazed would save the world. In a battle situation would this be practical tho,otherwise yes youre correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savanorn he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Just now, Revan Kholin said: In a battle situation would this be practical tho,otherwise yes youre correct. Hmmm. I'd say it would be. Not in every case, but it'd have its place. It is kind of like using duralumin pewter or steel in a fight. Yes, you're going to burn it all out, but doing this allows for nore possibilities than regular burns and flares alone. As for atium V atium specifically, I'd say duralumin/atium might give you a better edge than atium alone. At a guess I'd say it might allow you to see a little further or predict the enemy atium user. But there might be WoB on this I'm not aware of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Farren Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Savanorn said: No problems CL. Out of curiosity have you read all of Mistborn? I've read the first trilogy only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeiryWriter he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 Yeah as Savanorn mentioned we do see this during the climax of HoA and basically what it does is break things and allow you to look directly into the Spiritual Realm, where all times exist as one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloud Farren Posted November 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, WeiryWriter said: Yeah as Savanorn mentioned we do see this during the climax of HoA and basically what it does is break things and allow you to look directly into the Spiritual Realm, where all times exist as one. I guess that make sense. thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonorIsDead he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 now, follow up question, what do you THINK (keyword think) happens when you burn Lerasium and duralumin? this would probably be a waste, because you'd already need to be a mistborn, or a duralumin misting to begin with. I would assume probably nothing, or that it might give you something like ferauchemy as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, HonorIsDead said: now, follow up question, what do you THINK (keyword think) happens when you burn Lerasium and duralumin? this would probably be a waste, because you'd already need to be a mistborn, or a duralumin misting to begin with. I would assume probably nothing, or that it might give you something like ferauchemy as well First of all, anyone can burn Lerasium, though you would have to be a duralumin misting. As a general effect, lerasium changes your spiritweb. Also, it appears that it burned instantaneously for Elend, making him into a mistborn in an instant. As such, I don't think duralumin would do anything, since lerasium already burns in a moment. Edited November 5, 2016 by Spoolofwhool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savanorn he/him Posted November 5, 2016 Report Share Posted November 5, 2016 13 hours ago, Cloud Farren said: I've read the first trilogy only. Ah awesome. Making sure I didn't kust spoil the ending. 5 hours ago, HonorIsDead said: now, follow up question, what do you THINK (keyword think) happens when you burn Lerasium and duralumin? this would probably be a waste, because you'd already need to be a mistborn, or a duralumin misting to begin with. I would assume probably nothing, or that it might give you something like ferauchemy as well I think there's WoB that it wouldn't do anything more than normally consuming it. I think duralumin works by burning all of the metal at once, giving a big spike of investiture... but I thing lerasium is really defined by how much you burn, not how quickly, so you'd still end up the same strength. Although there is the issue that actually burning lerasium might have a different effect we don't know if one is already an allomancer. 4 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said: First of all, anyone can burn Lerasium, though you would have to be a duralumin misting. As a general effect, lerasium changes your spiritweb. Also, it appears that it burned instantaneously for Elend, making him into a mistborn in an instant. As such, I don't think duralumin would do anything, since lerasium already burns in a moment. Also this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted November 6, 2016 Report Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, Savanorn said: Although there is the issue that actually burning lerasium might have a different effect we don't know if one is already an allomancer. Lerasium Allomantic Effect is "Rewrite your spiritweb" as default effect (without any specific istruction) it simply rewrites your Connection to Preservation Stronger and as side effect it turn you into a Mistborn. If an Allomancer burns Lerasium (again without specific istructions) the Lerasium would simply stack more Allomantic Strenght to the burner (for example we have a WoB that said "if Vin would burn a Lerasium bead, She will become an Allomancer stronger than Elend") EDIT to add the Wob Quote SHARDLET If Vin and Elend hypothetically each blindly ingested equivalently sized beads of lerasium, would Vin be a stronger Mistborn than Elend, or would they be equal? BRANDON SANDERSON Yes, Vin would be stronger. It is additive, not just an overwrite. The same thing happens with Hemalurgy; with Hemalurgy when you're spiking someone's soul, you're ripping off a piece and adding it. Edited November 6, 2016 by Yata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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