Aluminum Trap for Hoid

[Tsidqiyah he/him]

I have been working a FTL theory here and am interested to know if anyone else has thoughts about this option.

I recent read how Aluminum will create dead spaces in speed bubbles, that speed bubbles will move with the thing they are on if they are big enough and fast enough (train vs. stage coach), and the size limits we have seen and a little for fluid then portraied.  See attached thread for details

So would an aluminum room inside a speed bubble, protect the inhabitants from the relativistic effects of FTL? 

Also there is Bubble size and Vessel size to consider. if the vessel is completly enclosed i bet the rules will define us as small. so we will need multiple layers of bubbles each. i think turning one layer on for .2 seconds and off for 2 seconds leads us to needing at least 21 layers spaces .1 seconds apart.  As for Bubble size we know anything touching the bubbles enters the bubble... so bubble size should be an issue BUT if each layer were comprised of multiple emitters space across the ship so the bubbles overlapped we should be ok right?

If so here is my plan.  I want to get Hoid as my traveling companion and discuss his views of the big picture going on out there.

Step 1: Build a Southern Scadialian Airship. with LOTS of Ettmetal

Step 2: Outfit it with the "engines" for lift and forward travel. also outfit it out with a "FTL drive" made with multiple layers of multiple Bendalloy engines (This should also compounding the individual effects to incluse the time dilation.) 

Step 3: IMPORTANT FOR THIS THEROY!  Out a room in the ship so the people inside can survive the vacuum of space Oxygen tanks snacks etc. completely lined with Aluminium walls, ceilings, floors no gaps.

Step 4: Bait the trap with juicy information that would attract Hoid (Any ideas that would keep him on my side?).

Step 5: Wait for Hoid to show up, lock us in the aluminum space, and launch. Please aim for another Shardworld so we can resupply and head home.

In summery Steel for pushing, Bendalloy for time dilation, Ettmetal for fuel, The metal for the investiture part of the engine (nicrosel), and Aluminum to negate relativity.

I know this constant gets RAFOed and may have be discussed to death, but i would welcome anybodies thoughts here.

 

 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Tsidqiyah

[The One Who Connects he/him]

6 minutes ago, Tsidqiyah said:

I have been working a FTL theory here and am interested to know if anyone else has thought about this option.

Step 1: build a Southern Scadialian Airship.

Step 2: Outfit it with the "engines" for lift and forward travel. also outfit it out with a "FTL drive" made with multiple Bendalloy and Duralumin engines.

here me 

Step 3: Fit it out so the people inside can survive the vacuum of space Oxygen tanks snacks etc.

Just to be clear, your "engines" have something to do with the Cubes right? Don't want to be extra confused later on

Duralumin boosted Bendalloy is a... I can see it working from the sense of a person's bubble, compressing all of their metal reserves into an instant of shrunken time. But the Cubes don't appear to have a "metal reserve" to run out in that sense. Otherwise, I think that this is a decent enough starting idea.

Last question, whats with the title?

[Tsidqiyah he/him]

Sorry my computer spazed and posted before i was done putting down my thoughts. as a result the getting Hoid aboard my ship did not make into thread prior to the initial post. i have edited and finished.  Yes the cube technology is what i am talking about for the engines.  and without more information about how durlumin reacts with this technology i pulled it out.

[+hwiles]

FTL travel always get's RAFO'd because, depending on how it's rectified, it threatens being totally physics breaking across the Cosmere and Sanderson strives for internal consistency.  Your theory is interesting, but I suspect that aluminum wouldn't affect any change in how relativity functioned.  That said, there are some oddities with speed bubbles' light-bending effects and relatively firm statements that backwards time-travel will not become a prominent plot-device in the Cosmere (and probably isn't even possible) that can be interpreted as strong indications that relativity in the Cosmere does not function in a way that we would be familiar with.  IE: the speed of light may not be constant in the Cosmere, and an "FTL" spaceship wouldn't require any shenanigans.  Light may even travel infinitely fast in the Cosmere (though I hesitate to endorse this theory because I'm unsure what obscure ramifications this would have...)

I believe Sanderson has hinted that he wants Scadrians to find a technological way to expeditiously travel between star systems at some point in a Mistborn sci-fi trilogy; that requires moving faster than what we're familiar with as the speed of light.  We don't need to go into the boring specifics, but in our universe, traveling faster than the speed of light would necessarily send you backwards in time (which, according to all current observations, doesn't appear to be possible...yet...)

I suspect at some point in the distant future, when the last Mistborn trilogy is being put out (Mistborn the Final Final Empire), Sanderson will come out and state that the Cosmere doesn't have Special Relativity.  That way he can fling Scadrians across the Cosmere as fast as he needs without needing infinite energy or time travel, both of which often kind of suck to read about in my experience.

[Spoolofwhool]

2 hours ago, hwiles said:

I believe Sanderson has hinted that he wants Scadrians to find a technological way to expeditiously travel between star systems at some point in a Mistborn sci-fi trilogy; that requires moving faster than what we're familiar with as the speed of light.  We don't need to go into the boring specifics, but in our universe, traveling faster than the speed of light would necessarily send you backwards in time (which, according to all current observations, doesn't appear to be possible...yet...)

Era 4 of Mistborn will be a space opera with FTL drive. This is confirmed and the reason why he is RAFOing all questions about FTL because it is going to be written about. 

Regarding the main theory. I don't think that a sealed empty volume by aluminium inside a speed bubble causes holes in it to form. Honestly, I don't even see how the supposed secondary question of it forming a dead pocket came about since it seems to be that the main question stated that having aluminum where the border would fall would just terminate the bubble. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the information about the dead space didn't actually come from a question, but some interpretation of the question the questioner had in mind that they thought Brandon got as well?