Steelheart Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Do we know any instances where that we've seen a Feruchemist use Connection, Investiture, Fortune, or Determination? I'm guessing Hoid used them at some point, but don't have any proof :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 (edited) Are you talking about just Era 1 with full feruchemists or are you including Era 2 ferrings as well? (We really need a word to differentiate between full feruchemists and feruchemists as a whole, like allomancer and mistborn.) In Era 1, I don't think anyone knew Aluminium, Duraluminium, Chromium or Nicrosil will feruchemical metals, else they would've made the connection to them being allomantic metals as well. Anyone other than TLR or course. In Era 2, I don't think see anyone use any of the Spiritual feruchemical powers directly. However, IIRC, in one of the newsheets, in AoL or SoS I think, there's a mention of someone using Connection. I think it was in one of the Allomancer Jak stories. I'm not counting the medallions as someone using the spiritual feruchemy. As to Hoid using them. It's possible. There's nothing really to indicate one way or another other than the fact that he's using magic to translate his words, which could be Connection. However, since he has been probably doing that since before he visited Scadrial and acquired lerasium, he's probably doing so by some other means and magic, other than feruchemistry. A number of magical system can share similar effects. Edited September 13, 2016 by Spoolofwhool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savanorn he/him Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 As an aside I'd suggest "Ferroborn" or maybe "Feruborn" as one who has feruchemical powers in general, weather they be ferring or feruchemist, especially because AFAIK you are always born with them if you have them. But I think we're a little too early to see those advanced feruchemical powers used. It also helps that for the majority of Mistborn we haven't seen that many unrestricted feruchemists. I mean, it is possible Hoid is doing his language worldhopper thing via connection feruchemistry but that's about it (and a bit if a stretch at that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 In the era 1 this power were unkown. In the era 2 two of this power are pretty useless (Connection and Invesiture) - Investiture: can be used to store your Spiritweb for a lately tapping again.....Almost always useless for a Ferring - Connection: you may store or tap connection to your homeland....quite uselss in the actual (but this will change soon) social situation of Elendel, where nodoby goes far from the basin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Yata said: - Connection: you may store or tap connection to your homeland....quite uselss in the actual (but this will change soon) social situation of Elendel, where nodoby goes far from the basin. It was stated in Era 2 newsheet that you could use connection on individuals instead to get them to be more friendly with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 13, 2016 Report Share Posted September 13, 2016 11 minutes ago, Spoolofwhool said: It was stated in Era 2 newsheet that you could use connection on individuals instead to get them to be more friendly with you. mmm Probably Connection works like Sense. You may store/tap specif type of Connections.... If I don't remember wrong, the SH's main character listed the type of Connections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFencer Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 We have not yet seen someone use Allomancy •nicrosil (nicrobursting) Feruchemy •cadmium (stores breath) •chromium (stores luck) •electrum (stores determination) •bendalloy (stores food energy) •aluminum (stores identity) nicrosil (stores investiture/ability to use powers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantsForSquares he/him Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 On 9/12/2016 at 4:57 PM, Spoolofwhool said: In Era 1, I don't think anyone knew Aluminium, Duraluminium, Chromium or Nicrosil will feruchemical metals, else they would've made the connection to them being allomantic metals as well. The metals that hadn't been discovered in Era 1 were cadmium and chromium, as well as their alloys (bendalloy and nicrosil, respectively). Aluminum and Duralumin were implied to be suppressed by Rashek, as he didn't want any Inquisitors with the ability to burn Duralumin (at least, according to Sazed's speculation). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PantsForSquares said: The metals that hadn't been discovered in Era 1 were cadmium and chromium, as well as their alloys (bendalloy and nicrosil, respectively). Aluminum and Duralumin were implied to be suppressed by Rashek, as he didn't want any Inquisitors with the ability to burn Duralumin (at least, according to Sazed's speculation). I'll clarify: it wasn't common knowledge that aluminum and duralumin were allomantic metals. I'm aware that TLR knew about them, as well as cadmium and chromium, but I was referring to what was known to the masses, and how it could translate to knowing the feruchemical metals. The extension was that since no one (except TLR) knew aluminum, duraluminum, chromium or nicrosil were allomantic metal, no one (except TLR) made the translation that they were feruchemical metals, and therefore never stored their appropriate attributes. Edited September 20, 2016 by Spoolofwhool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goody153 Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Kinda off-topic but i'm curious why Rashek surpassed Duralumin knowledge(it's pretty much just kinda google translate and the allomantic metal doesn't seem to be that problematic ) and i certainly can understand why he hid Electrum even as feruchemical ability that metal will just destroy the entire atium economics he relied upon if one of the allomancers happen got curious and discovered what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Who Connects he/him Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 (edited) 35 minutes ago, goody153 said: Kinda off-topic but i'm curious why Rashek surpassed Duralumin knowledge(it's pretty much just kinda google translate and the allomantic metal doesn't seem to be that problematic ) and i certainly can understand why he hid Electrum even as feruchemical ability that metal will just destroy the entire atium economics he relied upon if one of the allomancers happen got curious and discovered what it does. Duralumin boosts abilities to great levels. It would give criminal Mistborn even more potent weapons against people. It would give his Inquisitors the strength to challenge him (same reason he didn't teach them nicrosil or chromium either). It also prevented Mistings of that type from being found, which gave Ruin's Inquisitors a disadvantage. Edited September 25, 2016 by The One Who Connects excess blank lines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 As @The One Who Connects said and you have to consider also that is impossible to spread the of Durallumin without doing the same with Alluminium. And the Alluminium may be used as a good weapon aganist his Inquisitor and himself. Remember also that Rashek would avoid the spread of metal who can be used to give to a Feruchemist a annoying power.....Identity and Connection may be a real powerful upgrade to the Keepers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 44 minutes ago, Yata said: As @The One Who Connects said and you have to consider also that is impossible to spread the of Durallumin without doing the same with Alluminium. And the Alluminium may be used as a good weapon aganist his Inquisitor and himself. Aluminum wouldn't be that useful against inquisitors unless they started as a Mistborn since I doubt they would deliberately give an inquisitor aluminum allomantic powers otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yata he/him Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 16 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said: Aluminum wouldn't be that useful against inquisitors unless they started as a Mistborn since I doubt they would deliberately give an inquisitor aluminum allomantic powers otherwise. I don't say Alluminium Allomantic Power....but actually Alluminium as material.....It may be a nice problem to someone with Steelsight alone and would give them trouble to heal the wound once hit. The Inquisitor have to be "invincible" to the masses...The Empire can't allow to have a explicit "weak point" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoolofwhool Posted September 26, 2016 Report Share Posted September 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Yata said: I don't say Alluminium Allomantic Power....but actually Alluminium as material.....It may be a nice problem to someone with Steelsight alone and would give them trouble to heal the wound once hit. The Inquisitor have to be "invincible" to the masses...The Empire can't allow to have a explicit "weak point" Ah, fair enough. Yes, that would be effective. Invisible weapons which stop them from healing would put a stop to them really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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