Spoolofwhool Posted August 25, 2016 Posted August 25, 2016 25 minutes ago, zeppomarks said: Less bullets coming your way, I figure. If they can't shoot as fast, then you have less to deal with. I don't know, it makes sense to me. I don't know if I can explain it correctly. So if we're still going on the same premise. Cadmium bubble up means normal time centre with slow time around. Cadmium down means just fast time centre. Since the ratio of time is the same between fast and slow, relative to you at the centre, people within the range of the cadmium bubble would always be moving at the same slowness.
zeppomarks Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Spoolofwhool said: So if we're still going on the same premise. Cadmium bubble up means normal time centre with slow time around. Cadmium down means just fast time centre. Since the ratio of time is the same between fast and slow, relative to you at the centre, people within the range of the cadmium bubble would always be moving at the same slowness. True, but with the cadmium bubble down, people outside the range of the Cadmium bubble are now going as slow as anything that would have been inside the cadmium bubble. It's just a way to slow everything down instead of just slowing the stuff in the cadmium bubble down. There's very little difference between the two.
zeppomarks Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Hypothetical: Do Kandra fill the brain cavity of a skull with mush, or do they leave it empty? They don't need to create a brain, since their thoughts are caused by their spikes, and anything they put in there would be about 3 pounds of wasted mass. But if they didn't, I would imagine the echoing inside their head whenever they spoke would get really annoying.
Djarskublar he/him Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 Probably just fluids. It would make a good waste storage tank, so to speak.
zeppomarks Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Djarskublar said: Probably just fluids. It would make a good waste storage tank, so to speak. Lol. Now I'm just imagining having a septic tank sloshing around between my ears... So wrong...
Spoolofwhool Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) They would probably use to it contain extra muscle and flesh if they're posing as someone small and have too much. Otherwise, not sure what else they would keep there. Edited August 26, 2016 by Spoolofwhool
Spoolofwhool Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) Interestingly enough, if you started with a Augur Bloodmaker twinborn (Gold/Gold), you could create an army of Augur Bloodmakers through hemalurgy. Providing you had enough gold of course. Here's the WoB that spiking someone to charge a hemalurgic spike doesn't disrupt their spiritual identity nor prevent them from using other manifestations of investiture. The process is fairly simple of course. You make sure the original Augur Bloodmaker has plenty of gold metalminds with good charges, with at least some pierced into him. The process from there is pretty simple. You spike him for one of the gold abilities, wait for him to use the charges to heal the spiritual and physical damage, then spike him for the other. You would just have to make sure you don't run out of metalmind charge, at least when he's currently without feruchemy. Otherwise, you would have to go find an unkeyed gold metalmind, which probably isn't that common. Edited August 26, 2016 by Spoolofwhool 1
Nedyah Drallid Posted August 26, 2016 Author Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) The other totally out there idea that me and my brother invented is the opposite of the knights radiant. These bond with voidspren, use voidlight, and have their own orders and surges. Here are the surges: Opacity- X-ray, Fogging up windows Tangibility- Basically going through walls, making holes in the floor, etc. Density- Changing weight of objects Acceleration- Changing speed of objects (Holding a coin in your hand and shooting it at the speed of a bullet) Reflection- Forcefields Hydration- Taking water away from something, or putting it in Vibration- Vibrating t hings (It would be more useful than it sounds) Magnification- Making things larger Animation- Bringing things to life (Similar to awakening but not as versatile) Dynamism- Lazers Edited August 27, 2016 by Nedyah Drallid 1
Rasarr she/her Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 11 hours ago, zeppomarks said: Hypothetical: Do Kandra fill the brain cavity of a skull with mush, or do they leave it empty? They don't need to create a brain, since their thoughts are caused by their spikes, and anything they put in there would be about 3 pounds of wasted mass. But if they didn't, I would imagine the echoing inside their head whenever they spoke would get really annoying. I believe they use it as an extra storage. Me'laan mentions having back-up food and water in hers. She also mentions having a brain in a metal box in her leg, so the kandra apparently do need brain for something.
zeppomarks Posted August 26, 2016 Posted August 26, 2016 11 hours ago, Rasarr said: I believe they use it as an extra storage. Me'laan mentions having back-up food and water in hers. She also mentions having a brain in a metal box in her leg, so the kandra apparently do need brain for something. Lol. That's right, I forgot she mentioned that she basically uses the space as a satchel. I was thinking that she said it was one of her spikes that was in her leg, but I could have been mistaken. I do remember her mentioning something about a metal box though too, And she couldn't have had her spike in a metal box or else it wouldn't have worked. Maybe Kandra actually do have some sort of permanent central nervous system. I always thought that they sort of just made and unmade all the bits, but it would make sense if there were certain bits that had to always be around.
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) On 8/24/2016 at 11:46 AM, Rasarr said: Idea that's probably not true: one of the godmetals lets you store any sort of magic; for example, a Windrunner could store one of his Surges in an godmetal medallion, and then another person could tap it and use Adhesion or Gravitation without Nahel bond. Likewise, an Elantrian could store his "elantricity" ("elantriness"?), and while storing, would be a normal person; a normal person could tap that medallion to become an elantrian for the time of tapping. I'm pretty sure nicrosil could actually do this. It might take a lot of storage to get as much power as a full Elantrian, but I think nicrosil is capable of storing more than just your status as an Allomancer of Feruchemist. Indeed, considering that behind the scenes, Allomancy and AonDor work in a very, very similar way, I am almost positive that you could gain power to use AonDor for a short time with an unkeyed nicrosil mind. Or if you were an elantrian who had a nicrosil medallion of the right construction (two seperate pieces of nicrosil would be required), you might be able to make your Aons more powerful for a short time. Edited August 27, 2016 by Drake Marshall
Spoolofwhool Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 12 minutes ago, Drake Marshall said: I'm pretty sure nicrosil could actually do this. It might take a lot of storage to get as much power as a full Elantrian, but I think nicrosil is capable of storing more than just your status as an Allomancer of Feruchemist. Indeed, considering that behind the scenes, Allomancy and AonDor work in a very, very similar way, I am almost positive that you could gain power to use AonDor for a short time with an unkeyed nicrosil mind. Or if you were an elantrian who had a nicrosil medallion of the right construction (two seperate pieces of nicrosil would be required), you might be able to make your Aons more powerful for a short time. Quite. Although the Ars Arcanum labels nicrosil as the feruchemical metal to store investiture, I think it should be more accurately labelled as the metal which stores the ability the use a manifestation of investiture. Quite mouthy, unfortunately, but more correct. Technically speaking, every metalmind stores investiture, since the attribute charge you store in it is investiture.
marsoupial they/them Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 When in Secret History it is revealed that Spoiler Kelsier is a Cognitive spirit, and he confers with Spook to experiment with Hemalurgy to try to find a way to anchor him back to the Physical Realm I always imagine that the Realms are like pieces of paper and that Spoiler Kelsier is like a smaller piece of paper and that Spoiler Hemalurgy is like a thumb tack, connecting Spoiler Cognitive Realm Kelsier back to the Physical realm 1
marsoupial they/them Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 On 8/25/2016 at 8:19 PM, zeppomarks said: Hypothetical: Do Kandra fill the brain cavity of a skull with mush, or do they leave it empty? They don't need to create a brain, since their thoughts are caused by their spikes, and anything they put in there would be about 3 pounds of wasted mass. But if they didn't, I would imagine the echoing inside their head whenever they spoke would get really annoying. MeLaan uses hers to hide an emergency canteen...
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted August 28, 2016 Posted August 28, 2016 1 hour ago, bleeder said: When in Secret History it is revealed that Hide contents Kelsier is a Cognitive spirit, and he confers with Spook to experiment with Hemalurgy to try to find a way to anchor him back to the Physical Realm I always imagine that the Realms are like pieces of paper and that Hide contents Kelsier is like a smaller piece of paper and that Hide contents Hemalurgy is like a thumb tack, connecting Hide contents Cognitive Realm Kelsier back to the Physical realm Yes. This is very much how I see it as well. 1 hour ago, bleeder said: MeLaan uses hers to hide an emergency canteen... Indeed. It has been mentioned I think. But on this topic... What are the physical requirements of a kandra? From this I presume they can get dehydrated, which I suppose makes sense... Other than a "brain", are there any physical organs that a kandra must always incorporate into their biology? Interesting questions, these...
Djarskublar he/him Posted August 29, 2016 Posted August 29, 2016 10 hours ago, bleeder said: When in Secret History it is revealed that Reveal hidden contents Kelsier is a Cognitive spirit, and he confers with Spook to experiment with Hemalurgy to try to find a way to anchor him back to the Physical Realm I always imagine that the Realms are like pieces of paper and that Reveal hidden contents Kelsier is like a smaller piece of paper and that Reveal hidden contents Hemalurgy is like a thumb tack, connecting Reveal hidden contents Cognitive Realm Kelsier back to the Physical realm On this topic, not having read secret history yet I don't know about how this turns out, but if you can anchor a cognitive entity to a physical one, could you bind a gold or malatium shadow to something? Also, Kel should end up with a body that is a suit of metal, then we can start calling him Alphonse. 1
zeppomarks Posted August 31, 2016 Posted August 31, 2016 On 8/28/2016 at 9:43 PM, Djarskublar said: On this topic, not having read secret history yet I don't know about how this turns out, but if you can anchor a cognitive entity to a physical one, could you bind a gold or malatium shadow to something? Also, Kel should end up with a body that is a suit of metal, then we can start calling him Alphonse. Kelphonse? Alphonsier?
DrakeMarshall he/him Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) I feel that binding a gold shadow would be challenging. But probably possible, with the right magics... Also, I wonder... Can Lift touch gold or even atium shadows, like she can touch spren? How about the cognitive shadows of the dead? Interesting thoughts. Edited September 1, 2016 by Drake Marshall 1
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