JUQ he/him Posted October 6, 2016 Posted October 6, 2016 On 9/18/2016 at 11:02 AM, DarkJester said: Ok. I've listened to most all of the cosmir related books (audio), and I'm starting to understand a little better how things are connected. So from what I gather in this discussion, people seem to think Hoid wants to become an Elantrian, but why would he want to limit himself? He keeps world hopping, forging connections, and gaining experience/skills. He holds breath, noted by his perfect pitch, he can use storm light, and I'm sure there's much more if you look into it. The fact is, he's not just looking around and trying to figure out what form to pick. It's too simple for him. Yes, elantrians are extremely powerful when compaired with many of the other powerful beings in the cosmir, and they are immortal, but it seems to me that Hoid already has that going for him. It seems to me that Hoid is more interested in gathering connections, and experiences. Someone posted about how your experiences and your actions write themselves to your spirit web. Well I propose that he is trying to gather hints of all the shards of Adonalsium, writing them into his spirit web, even if only a little, so that if he were to rewrite his spiritual DNA, he will try to become the new Adonalsium. Why limit himself. If your going to hold on to the power to change yourself any way you want, and cary it around for hundreds of years, your going to use it for something big. A normal person becoming an Elantrian would be big, but for Hoid, it would be like a thanks for participating trophy to put on his shelf of dozens upon dozens of other trophies. Yeah, it's nice, but it's just not that big of a deal... Good idea. I had another, different concept, from a WoB. I'm not sure how to link it, but it is question 163 on here: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt='shards' Quote TAVEREN If someone goes to every planet and get Invested from every shard, if he was Invested enough would he become a new Shard? BRANDON SANDERSON That’s an excellent question that I’m not going to answer. TAVEREN I guess you will not answer if anyone is trying to do that BRANDON SANDERSON Yup, I am not going to answer. Sorry. That's too deeply related to things that are happening in the cosmere and I don’t want to dig into for a little while yet. So, maybe this is what Hoid is doing. I also considered it could perhaps be the 17th Shard, merely because of their name.
Djarskublar he/him Posted October 7, 2016 Author Posted October 7, 2016 I have to say that I completely disagree that becoming an Elantrian would be at all limiting or useless to Hoid. If he can work it out so he can access the abilities off Sel, then it would be ridiculously useful. I think that if he managed to become an Elantrian, he would attempt to bring Khriss in on experimenting with it, if only because she would be very helpful and make the process faster. Even without her help, though, I'm certain that he could get the magic to work off world. Even if he couldn't, it would still be really powerful. Engraving Aons or stitching them into clothing would be truly amazing. He doesn't have true hard age immortality yet as far as we know, he just has some age back for super longevity. Being an Elantrian would solve the issue of him potentially aging to death later. The thing about Elantrians is their sheer versatility. If they can think of a desired effect and use the right Aon, they can do anything. This gets pretty freaking strong since there is probably a way to further rewrite spiritwebs with Aons. Hoid would definitely do that. If he became an Elantrian, I can't imagine he would do anything other than practice Aons until the next book plot came up. Aons can do anything. They can't do it immediately because you have to draw it, but that means you just have to prepare in advance, which Hoid is excellent at. Aons, to me anyway, are the best way to enchant an object. Once you figure out how to access the Dor off Sel, you can add that functionality to any item, and it gets OP really fast. Basically, you could make Aonic shardplate. And a Shardblade. And a 'magic wand' type thing. You could literally make a wand that when flicked properly, it would shoot a fireball. We even know the base Aon that would do that. You could shoot bolts of pure damaging Investiture - wand of magic missiles. If it's a wand or staff in D&D, you can probably make something similar with Aons. You could animate golems or create better versions of Nightblood. Basically, Aons are the most similar to straight spellcasting we have seen. It is easily the most powerful system for the talented mind and hand. You just have to find a way around its base limitation of geography.
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