OblivionRapture Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 On 2/27/2016 at 11:21 AM, Yata said: (very little Spoiler from Mistborn: Secret History) Hello sharder, I am here with a strange idea that come to my mind. We know that Steel/Iron Allomancy allows to push/pull Metals, but is it possible that we have wrong all this time ? (and the effect we saw is only a specific istance of Steel/Iron Allomancy outcome) The doubt come after reading Secret History, we see how on Scadrial every Metal is a gateway to Investiture and in the Cognitive Realm they glows like Beacons for this reason. Now what if Does Steel (and Iron) Allomancy let you spot this Beacons and to use it as Anchor to Push (or Pull) ? (like if the Metal is more compatible to be manipulate through Investiture) Of Course on Scadrial this let you to Push/pull on metals (this is the "Specific istance"), but off world the Beacons to be used as target may be something different (and maybe something not physical like the Command on Nalthis). I know this idea of mine may be very probably wrong, but I find this possibility quite intresting and I want your opinions this may make sense as to why aluminum isn't able to be pushed or pulled on... because it has no investure, as where most things may have at least some form of it.
Argent he/him Posted December 30, 2016 Posted December 30, 2016 10 hours ago, OblivionRapture said: this may make sense as to why aluminum isn't able to be pushed or pulled on... because it has no investure, as where most things may have at least some form of it. That may not actually be the case. So, aluminum doesn't interact with investiture (I think Brandon called it "magically inert"), but that doesn't mean it is not invested itself. A little bit like the non-reactive elements in chemistry - they are still elements, not much different from the others, but they don't act in chemical reactions (generally speaking, let's not get technical about analogies). Plus, Ruin and Preservation created Scadrial - and, presumably its aluminum - from scratch, so that everything on the planet, everything in the planet, was made up of their investiture. So in this context, the reason aluminum can't be Pushed or Pulled is simply because it doesn't interact with the magic.
OblivionRapture Posted December 31, 2016 Posted December 31, 2016 16 hours ago, Argent said: That may not actually be the case. So, aluminum doesn't interact with investiture (I think Brandon called it "magically inert"), but that doesn't mean it is not invested itself. A little bit like the non-reactive elements in chemistry - they are still elements, not much different from the others, but they don't act in chemical reactions (generally speaking, let's not get technical about analogies). Plus, Ruin and Preservation created Scadrial - and, presumably its aluminum - from scratch, so that everything on the planet, everything in the planet, was made up of their investiture. So in this context, the reason aluminum can't be Pushed or Pulled is simply because it doesn't interact with the magic. MM, I suppose I meant that aluminum doesn't have the same "energy" as other metal does. Whereas other metal are able to be sensed, in both the physical and spiritual realm, aluminum has no "spirit" or "pulse" like other things do. Spiritually, they can't be seen, so magic wouldn't work on them because it works based on how your spirit interprets it's existence.
Yata he/him Posted December 31, 2016 Author Posted December 31, 2016 18 hours ago, Argent said: So in this context, the reason aluminum can't be Pushed or Pulled is simply because it doesn't interact with the magic. I know it's the common theory...but as we see the Aluminum to be part of the 16 Metallic Art's metals (and some other istances where the Alluminium works as normal matter), I feel the "it doesn't interact with magic" wrong. There must be a reason the aluminum may interact with some and be a black hole for others. The Spiritual blankness may be an answer, maybe it's wrong but work quite well for now. PS: I don't know, maybe it would be interesting to start a topic with the Spiritual Emptiness of Alluminium alone.
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