nervousnerd he/him Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Dalinar during the battles against the Parshendi loses the Thrill and begins to feel nauseous. Was that because he used a shardblade (screaming spren)? I've also read some posts that this is because it goes against his nature as a Bondsmith. Some other questions about this:Did the Knights Radiant in his visions give any indication that they get the Thrill?Does Kaladin get the Thrill? If so does he also experience this nausea?Could becoming a Radiant stop you from getting the Thrill?
Pathfinder Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Dalinar during the battles against the Parshendi loses the Thrill and begins to feel nauseous. Was that because he used a shardblade (screaming spren)? I've also read some posts that this is because it goes against his nature as a Bondsmith. Some other questions about this: Did the Knights Radiant in his visions give any indication that they get the Thrill? Does Kaladin get the Thrill? If so does he also experience this nausea? Could becoming a Radiant stop you from getting the Thrill? Although none of this has been outright confirmed (correct me if I am wrong), it is pretty much accepted that the reason Dalinar got nauseous was because he was a proto radiant. There is a WoB regarding the Thrill and the visions but I cannot recall it too well, so I will abstain from stating it till someone else can hopefully quote it. From what we have seen of Kaladin, I think it is confirmed he has never experienced the thrill. The implication is that by becoming a radiant, the thrill sickens you or stops affecting you in so far as being turned into a bloodthirsty barbarian.
nervousnerd he/him Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 That makes sense too I suppose seeing as the KR exist to oppose Odium and the Thrill is of Odium.
ChickenChaser Posted March 4, 2016 Posted March 4, 2016 I believe you are right in that both the Trill and the Death Rattles are ancient, but I think the point of contention here is whether either of the two effects has always been around and manifesting in people, or if they stopped at some point and have only begun to reappear in recent years. I may have found the WoB which is the source of the confusion Brandon here could either be referring to: a) the two first appeared long, long ago around the same time, likely when the unmade first became active on Roshar or /b) the two were dormant for a long time, but both started up again around the same time within the last several years Does anyone know of a later WoB which clarifies which he meant? There's a WoB that Dalinar might have been able to feel the Thrill in one of his visions because the farmer who Dalinar was at the time could possibly have felt the Thrill. This is suggestive, though not confirmatory, of the Thrill being active back when the desolation cycle was still going strong. This would mean that both the Thrill and the Death Rattles are likely ancient phenomena. Taravangian mentions at one point that he is worried that Moelach, the Unmade that he believes is causing the Death Rattles, has "decided to slumber again," which would suggest that the Death Rattles have only recently come back, as Moelach arose from its slumber. Or it could mean that Taravangian has seen stretches of time where the Death Rattles have stopped, periods of months or years since he first began to record them. Edit: I forgot to mention that when the Death Rattles first started to be mentioned in WoK, they said that there were a lot of rumors around how people recently started saying weird stuff when they died, which would suggest to me that the Death Rattles, at least, were dormant for a long time and have only recently begun to resurface. Or it could mean that Moelach spent a very long time in one area that doesn't communicate much with Alethkar or Kharbranth (maybe Shinovar?) I have a theory that I want to post on the boards soon. In WoK, Kaladin hears a Death Rattle in one of his flashbacks when he was younger. This was further to the east than Kharbranth. Then they're found in full force in Kharbranth years later. Then when Taravangian is in Jah Kaved he hears another Death Rattle and considers the possibility that Moelach is on the move. Do you think there's any relation?
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