Djarskublar he/him Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 Sorry if this is kinda necro, but this is definitely something I can add to. I have some sword training (I used to fence) and I can say with confidence that there is no way Denth could have pulled that off without Feruchemy. Just watch Olympic fencing some time. You can follow that with the naked eye fairly easily. Those are excellent specimens of humans. I agree that a Returned would be a fair bit better than a normal human, but even if you are twice as good, which I consider to be a very generous estimate, that simply isn't enough to do what he did. I just reread that passage, and he killed two men before anyone else could even do more than grab their swords. If they were random peasants, I could maybe see it, but these were hardened thugs and someone with around 500 Breaths watching. On top of that, they weren't even at the same table. They had slid another table up to the one Denth was at and were sitting there. To stand up from his chair, draw his sword, move over to where he could hit them, slash one man, and then stab another on the other side of the table in the neck before anyone else could do more than put their hand on a sword is not twice as fast. That is at least ten times faster. I cannot accept that a basic Returned could pull off that feat even with some weird physical enhancement like some have suggested he might have. And the fact that this takes place after Sazed's ascension only adds to this theory IMO. How would they have found a Feruchemist before that? On the outside, I guess that life sense might do it, but still, there weren't many of them left at that point. After, on the other hand, makes sense. You just find the correct Ferring. They don't need to be nearly as secretive about their power. I can see them figuring out Hemalurgy in either age. On the other hand, Vivenna does see 'a flash of color,' so maybe there was some funky awakening power going on here. I think Vivenna would have noticed if he had used awakening though, so this one doesn't sound terribly likely. It also shouldn't be enough to make him that fast. Also, if Tonk Fah has some Hemalurgic power, why not Denth? It doesn't make sense for the one and not the other.
Yata he/him Posted September 1, 2016 Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) Except than Vasher during his fight with Denth don't notice nothing strange in the other Returned's performance. Vasher seems to think that it's all in the possibilities of a Returned. But we may know only that Tonk Fah and Denth was born on Nalthis as sure deducible fact, they may (but I find the thing without a real base) have Hemalurgic Spike. But nothing in their action seems suggest to me they have some extra foreign power. EDIT: Notice that a Returned is often defined by his own Cognitive Aspect, if Denth focused for centuries to train himself. He or better his view of himself would allow him to move to an actual Supernatural Speed. Other Returned as Lightsong, are leterally kept far from discover every possibilites gifted from their Returned status. Edited September 1, 2016 by Yata
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