Aether he/him Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Wayne is a boy, right? He's like the others. "Is that mahogany?" © Should you better invoke Wax? Boys are boys: when they have one sword, they start to need another. And there's always another secret weapon I meant how you react to him. Boys might be overly fond of their toys, but girls squee too, and usually louder.
Colby Jack he/him Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Since Shardblades are near weightless to their wielders, I say you can handle as many huge swords as you'd like. You're just limited by availability and preference.
Aether he/him Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Well, but see two huge swords look pretty hard to handle. And I can handle Wayne any time. See the difference? Oh, I assure you, most men knows how to handle their swords. 3
Natans he/him Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Oh, I assure you, most men knows how to handle their swords. LOL, very smoth
Pathfinder Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 I assume this theory is regarding shardblades not attached to radiants? Because I saw what Kaladin can do mentioned a few times here and that is an entirely different animal. No heartbeats necessary for a radiant. You could change what the weapon is as a radiant which would support making it two swords, and if one is knocked out of your hand, it reforms in your hand immediately. Though I will say my thoughts regarding this not working, due to the fact that Kaladin switched from a shield, to a spear, to a halberd, to a sword and so on. He never formed a shield AND a weapon. Then again you quoted Brandon, so I am probably just missing something lol.
Kasimir he/him Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) I think it's a more reasonable assumption that parts of these theories are dated, simply because they were posted in Dec 2013, and therefore had no way of knowing--although some are in the ballpark--how Shardblades are created. And I do think there's a bit of wriggle-room there, possibly depending on the spren. If Syl could become a Shardspear, she could probably become a double-bladed spear. Perhaps a spren could then become two small (not huge--WoB hints that there's a size limit) blades that are linked by some small filament or something. But I'm not sure a single spren can become two separate weapons. The point about the Cognitive identity all the more holds, I believe. It may even be strengthened by the fact spren-Syl doesn't exist simultaneously with the Shardspear--it's either Shardspear or her form as a spren. Edited April 17, 2014 by Kasimir 1
Scriptorian he/him Posted April 17, 2014 Author Posted April 17, 2014 This thread started well before we had WoR so please forgive our cluelessness . I think the WoB refers specifically to dead shardblades so the next time I get a question out of him I'm gonna ask if a Spren can form more than one physicaly distinct forms at once. 1
Kasimir he/him Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Serendipity: Please do! Dualwielding would make things really awesome Edited April 17, 2014 by Kasimir
Scriptorian he/him Posted April 17, 2014 Author Posted April 17, 2014 Finally someone understands me!
Pathfinder Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 Ack, sorry! Still very new to these forums, so I didn't consider checking the date. Will keep that in mind in the future!
Scriptorian he/him Posted April 17, 2014 Author Posted April 17, 2014 I've had my own share of newbie blunders. You're doing just fine.
Vessyr Posted April 17, 2014 Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) Hmmm. I think I can see how certain weapons exist and are meant to be used as a pair. Sort of like Raphael's sais, or certain japanese styles that fight with a katana and wakizashi, or rapier/dagger for a more western style. I'm less confident about projectile type shards though as ownership would become very iffy. Projectile launching might be more feasible but the projectiles themselves might just be mundane? Or maybe stormlight generated? Is there a soulcast conversion fron air to wood or steel? I think this was skipped over too fast in this thread. This discussion hinges on how much real world mechanics you want to apply to this fantasy fighting. Fighting in movies is choreographed and is more dancing than actual fighting with all the flips and everything else. One of the reasons this was never popular in the real world is because it is easy to hinder yourself by having your weapons collide. Just look at how many people have trouble patting their head while rubbing their stomach. Now imagine trying to independantly swing two swords effectively. The amount of training you would need would far surpass the amount needed to master one sword. For this reason when a second weapon was used it was mainly defensive and much smaller like the Rapier/dagger pairing. You can find records that claim some people were proficient with two swords, but who knows how much is lore and how much is truth. The sais are small enough that the risk of them colliding is minimal, especially with the fact that they are piercing weapons and not slashing. So would you rather be like Cloud Strife from FFVII who wields an enormous blade that is around 6ft long? Maybe 2 sais that have shafts around 15in long? More of a sword and dagger combo? Wielding two 6ft swords would just not really be possible. So you are sacrificing reach to dual wield. In a duel this might not matter much if you parry to get in close and use your smaller weapons effectively. On the battle field where the shardsword can cut down four people at once like a scythe through a weat field... the long reach would be more effective. Just some issues to mull over if you want to sollidify a way for them to dual wield. Edited April 18, 2014 by Vessyr 1
kaellok he/him Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 Good points all, Vessyr. But I think you typoed VII -- unless you played a VERY different FFXII than me And most people are rather obsessed with dual wielding because it looks awesome. Personally, I'd be terrified to dual wield Shardblades; less scared now that I know they have a good amount of weight and heft to them now, but pre-WoR I was operating under the assumption that they're very similar to lightsabers. I really enjoyed the scene where Bridge 4 train with a Shardblade quite a bit, because clearing that up actually makes me enjoy the fight scenes with Shards all the more. Yay realism! (Meant seriously, even in regards to a completely fictitious world, about fantastical items and magic. I love fantasy as much as I love science and logic haha).
Vessyr Posted April 18, 2014 Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks for pointing out that FFVII is not the same as FFXII. I am surprised there wasn't a longer list of editting mistakes for me to fix. Normally my posts are riddled with mistakes. Edit: See, this short post had several spelling mistakes. Edited April 18, 2014 by Vessyr
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