Gamma Fiend he/him Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 In 'The Well of Acension' when Breeze is trying to soothe Tindwyl she says "Push my emotions all you want Soother. My feelings are my own. You'll have no success there"Now it could very well easily be she just has a very strong personality and would be more resistant to Emotional allomancy than most people. I imagine that's how she was able to detect his touches in the first place. But she sounds very certain that his efforts won't work.Is there any sort of Feruchemical properties that would protect from Soothing/Rioting? Maybe a trick with a certain metalminds?Any other instances where Keepers are Soothed or rioted? (I guess we really only have Sazed and Tindwyl as an observation group so probably not too much help there)What you guys think? This have any merit or am I just reading too much into Tindwyl's no-nonsense attitude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scriptorian he/him Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Um, my first though is Feruchemical electrum, but I highly doubt she knew about that...Feruchemical aluminum mabye...probably not...uhhhhhh....The only potential anti-emotion feruchmical metals I can think of are all (supposedly) unknown. I do remember distinctly that Breeze Soothes Sazed in HoA, (when trying to make him less depressed) and I'm fairly certain it works, even if Sazed realizes what he's trying to do. My best guess is that Twindyl is just awesome that way. Edited December 15, 2013 by Serendipity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claincy he/him Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Feruchemical electrum could, but it would be very situational. It would only work when they are soothing you to try to prevent you from doing something. Otherwise the added determination wouldn't really have any impact on the soothing. Feruchemical aluminium might. Reinforcing your identity could effectively overshadow and minimize any effects on your emotions that weren't yours to start with. For example: Say a soother was trying to make you very angry about something that normally wouldn't bother you, or would even make you feel happy. Tapping Feruchemical aluminium would strengthen your normal personality, effectively increasing the happiness relative to the anger. Again highly situational. This would be more effective with less charges for a strong-willed person naturally. Really I think Tyndwill is simply very strong-willed and also very much a master of her emotions. As a result she would have a fairly easy time recognizing a soother or rioter's influence and could ignore the emotion they were enhancing/effect they were trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamma Fiend he/him Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yeah I was thinking Feruchemical Identity would be a possible way of avoiding that. But it does mention Tindwyl wasn't one of the stronger Keepers.So yeah I believe it's more just her being very strong willed in her case.Buuuut. Let's speculate on the possibilities and uses of Feruchemical aluminum and other methods to prevent Rioting/Soothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oudeis he/him Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Yeah I was thinking Feruchemical Identity would be a possible way of avoiding that. But it does mention Tindwyl wasn't one of the stronger Keepers. So yeah I believe it's more just her being very strong willed in her case. Buuuut. Let's speculate on the possibilities and uses of Feruchemical aluminum and other methods to prevent Rioting/Soothing! From Sazed's perspective we frequently see (in the third book) him feeling his emotions get Pushed and Pulled by Breeze and Allriane. He isn't immune to it magically, it seems to be more of a scholarly thing. First, he is well-schooled on the subject of emotional Allomancy and how to detect/resist it, and second he is used to making decisions based on logic, regardless of emotion. I would suspect this is what Tindwyl means. Also, don't forget the time in Well of Ascension that Breeze successfully Soothes them both into knocking books. (Bow chicka wow wow. Get a library, you two!) So they might not be as immune as she said, maybe it was a bluff to just try to get him to stop. We've seen more than one person guess right by simply assuming that Breeze is currently Soothing, since he always is. THAT SAID. I agree, this is an interesting topic and I want to discuss it. What about nicrosil? I've got a theory that a Scadrian's Innate Investiture is why you can't Push metal inside his body, and that Copper Pulls on this Innate Investiture, making it stronger and that's why it let's you resist emotional Allomancy. What if that's what Nicrosil let's you store/tap? Perhaps if you've got some innate Investiture stored up, you can tap it, effectively duplicating the ability of Allomantic copper to protect you from emotional Allomancy. Or let's just go crazy with speculation; maybe she wore her aluminum hairband that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aether he/him Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 Or let's just go crazy with speculation; maybe she wore her aluminum hairband that day. Shame on you. You made me spit out my tea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pechvarry Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I find myself hoping electrum lets you override emotional tampering because I'm struggling to make it cool I'm my brain. In related news, it's rather absurd that aluminum/duralumin doesn't get tested for feruchemy in the original trilogy, just because sazed was too busy moping. How embarrassing if Feruchemical duralumin let you store/tap gods of entropy and destruction (aka the Jafar ending). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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