Cemci she/her Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 The whole marketing campaign would have to be all about how this is a serious cartoon, and that would be difficult. Any exception to the "cartoons-are-for-kids" rule is always full of adult content to prove how not-for-kids they are. Sure, there's violence in Stormlight, and there are scenes that could contain nudity (but those are just bathing scenes, where it really isn't necessary to show anything and would seem gratuitous if you did), but the story isn't characterized by it. There would be a number of episodes that would really just be PG- or even G-rated. With a property like The Stormlight Archive, where there's already a ton of stuff that will confuse the uninitiated, you really don't want to spend your advertising dollars convincing people that the show isn't for kids. You want to spend that money explaining why this very complicated and immersive world is worth the average viewer's time. Small side note: Stormlight Archive is gory - it might not come through that much in the book, but when Dalinar and Adolin lose the Thrill, they're absolutely horrified by what they see. Entrails all over the place, broken bodies and smashed in skulls from where Adolin punched them (this is when Dalinar loses the Thrill). Plus, Kaladin does a lot of field medicine, so you cannot get away with a bloodless adaptation. And the bridgemen charging at the Parshendi? I think there needs to be an element of danger that firstly, animation can't really convey for me and secondly, that works better if it's realistic - I typically find a limitation of The Hobbit franchise is that the weapons are all entirely clean, even if the characters have been fighting orcs for hours. 1
Guest Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Anyway, I think SA would work just fine as a live action TV show. So far, a decent amount of time has passed over the course of each book, so you could do, say, 10 seasons or so and not have the aging actors look weird. Now, something like The Wheel of Time, you might have to animate it. The whole story (with the exception of the prequel), all 14 books of it, happens over the course of 3 years, tops. Almost every main character is 17-19 years old, and it would quickly become very difficult to hide actors' aging, as the series stretched over the years. I personally do not think they would need to commit for the 10 books. The first five are likely going to be stand-alone and the back five won't even feature the same characters. It seems logical they would adapt the first arc in 5 or 6 seasons and wait a few years to do the back five, if the demand is high enough. They could then recast all the recurring characters or use the same actors if they still fit. However, they would truly need to cast young actors as older ones would only get older through the seasons. Small side note: Stormlight Archive is gory - it might not come through that much in the book, but when Dalinar and Adolin lose the Thrill, they're absolutely horrified by what they see. Entrails all over the place, broken bodies and smashed in skulls from where Adolin punched them (this is when Dalinar loses the Thrill). Plus, Kaladin does a lot of field medicine, so you cannot get away with a bloodless adaptation. And the bridgemen charging at the Parshendi? I think there needs to be an element of danger that firstly, animation can't really convey for me and secondly, that works better if it's realistic - I typically find a limitation of The Hobbit franchise is that the weapons are all entirely clean, even if the characters have been fighting orcs for hours. I do want the battlefield to look like... a battlefield. When Dalinar and Adolin are horrified, I want to be horrified with them. When Kaladin charges the Parshendis with is bridge, I want to feel the horror and the desperation with him.
DSC01 he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Yeah, I didn't mean to downplay that. The battle scenes are pretty explicit in their depictions of the horrors of war, at times. I just meant to say that it would be hard to sell Stormlight as an edgy, "adult" show. There are long stretches where there is no fighting at all, and very little else happens that would be considered a reason to give it a mature rating. Of course, that's not a bad thing; I was just saying it seems necessary for trying to sell a cartoon that isn't for kids. I guess the first episode would be intense, with the Final Desolation and Kaladin's battle for Amaram, and people might not realize that it didn't continue to be so gritty and grim. I don't think that it would be necessary to do that for a live-action show. With Game of Thrones' popularity, I could see people thinking that a fantasy show would have to be all grimdark to succeed, but MTV's Shannara show doesn't look like it's going that direction. 1
Guest Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Yeah, I didn't mean to downplay that. The battle scenes are pretty explicit in their depictions of the horrors of war, at times. I just meant to say that it would be hard to sell Stormlight as an edgy, "adult" show. There are long stretches where there is no fighting at all, and very little else happens that would be considered a reason to give it a mature rating. Of course, that's not a bad thing; I was just saying it seems necessary for trying to sell a cartoon that isn't for kids. I guess the first episode would be intense, with the Final Desolation and Kaladin's battle for Amaram, and people might not realize that it didn't continue to be so gritty and grim. I don't think that it would be necessary to do that for a live-action show. With Game of Thrones' popularity, I could see people thinking that a fantasy show would have to be all grimdark to succeed, but MTV's Shannara show doesn't look like it's going that direction. They wouldn't necessarily start the series as the book starts... They are likely going to re-work the order of many scenes in order to provide better continuity for the viewers. It many not start with the Final Desolation scene, they may decide to present this scene later on or not. The rating wouldn't need to go down: there are enough action to last for a season. The bridge runs, the hunt, the battles, these happen quite often and even GoT does not feature gore or sex in every episode.
pharaoh9000 he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Even if it wasn't marketed to children, the fact is that in the US market, animation is generally regarded as being for children. The only popular exceptions are comedies. Sure, people will allow for anime, too, but I really don't think that anime is right for Stormlight. I don't know what it is about anime, but when I watch anime that is clearly in the genre of epic fantasy, it doesn't feel like epic fantasy to me. I would be okay with high-quality animation that was not anime, but would the general market take it seriously? I want to make one thing clear... When it comes to marketing SA to the masses, I agree with you and I don't mean to sound argumentative. However, marketing this story to the masses is exactly the problem. Any time a great story is "adapted" for the sake of the masses, multiple sacrifices to characters, worlds, and backstories need to be made. If I were, perhaps, one of the executives ordering the funding for this project in the real world, I would be championing the same arguments that you make here. But as a fan myself, I like to dream up what mediums can be used to convey these stories that allow for minimal or even zero sacrifice to said stories. Yes, that's ridiculous, I know... but I fear that whatever adaptations we find ourselves watching after suffering that infamous "real-world filter" could barely be considered "Sanderson" once the adaptation is completed. If we're talking about average, real-world people having to be appealed to in order to enjoy SA, then we are indeed having a conversation about sacrifices to the Stormlight Archive stories. Often times, the greater the crowd you intend to appease, the greater the sacrifices and changes to the original story you have to make. The Lord of the Rings movies, even including their extended editions had huge sacrifices to stories, characters, ages, timelines, etc. The Game of Thrones tv series, to second your example, also made/makes many sacrifices and changes to the story and characters just to appeal to those same masses. I've heard it argued on more than one occasion that the Game of Thrones television adaptation is superior to the books because of those alterations. The show pushes all the right buttons to appeal to the average viewer on one level or another, so they win the market... but the original story is not exactly what we see on screen. That's not a bad deal for GRRM and his so-so books (sorry, GRRM fans), but what about Sanderson ...who has books that are already better than what almost any adaptation can pull off? Brandon Sanderson has a bad habit of not writing junk. It is difficult to read one of his books and spot things that are non-critical, can be "gotten rid of," or sacrificed in any way during the adaptation process. But in the real world, what story isn't altered in some way when it is introduced to the average person's living room? As a fan, I just have a hard time imagining what I'd be ok with seeing "get the cut" when adapted to live-action. My mind goes blank and I lose time like when Shallan thinks of how her mother died. Again, I think you're right and I agree with you if we're talking about market success and appealing to the average consumer... but there are also lots of incredible alternatives for the cosmere imo... and I think those alternatives could gain a lot more popularity than we expect, if done with care.
Cemci she/her Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Brandon Sanderson has a bad habit of not writing junk. It is difficult to read one of his books and spot things that are non-critical, can be "gotten rid of," or sacrificed in any way during the adaptation process. But in the real world, what story isn't altered in some way when it is introduced to the average person's living room? As a fan, I just have a hard time imagining what I'd be ok with seeing "get the cut" when adapted to live-action. My mind goes blank and I lose time like when Shallan thinks of how her mother died. So in a TV show adaptation, you would say leave the interludes in? The interlude with Lift, who probably would not become relevant for several seasons? It doesn't matter how close you want to stick to the books, some scenes will be reordered or taken out (of the first season anyway). I would put all of Kaladin's battlescenes with Amaram's army in one episode for example - any audience member (even fans of the books) would get confused otherwise. Scenes that are 'non-critical': Ashir and Geranid's viewpoint (discovering that flamespren are measurable) - they add nothing to the main plot Axies the Collector - again, adds nothing but worldbuilding, which we don't need as much, at least not in Season 1 Ishikk's scene on the Purelake - adds nothing to the main plot Anything exclusively Cosmere related would go, realistically.
pharaoh9000 he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 So in a TV show adaptation, you would say leave the interludes in? The interlude with Lift, who probably would not become relevant for several seasons? It doesn't matter how close you want to stick to the books, some scenes will be reordered or taken out (of the first season anyway). I would put all of Kaladin's battlescenes with Amaram's army in one episode for example - any audience member (even fans of the books) would get confused otherwise. Scenes that are 'non-critical': Ashir and Geranid's viewpoint (discovering that flamespren are measurable) - they add nothing to the main plot Axies the Collector - again, adds nothing but worldbuilding, which we don't need as much, at least not in Season 1 Ishikk's scene on the Purelake - adds nothing to the main plot Anything exclusively Cosmere related would go, realistically. "Re-ordered" is not the same as "sacrificed" or cut altogether. Adaptations still need to be "adapted" to the medium, of course... I simply contend that live-action, more than most mediums, demands more sacrifices than I could personally tolerate in a Sanderson novel. Also, begging your pardon, but I disagree that those scenes you mentioned are non-critical. These are major clues laid down within the story, they matter for the main plot. In a universe as layered as the Cosmere, so many things need to be discovered that not all of it can be discovered by the main characters. This is where side stories, side characters, and story arcs come into play. I'm not necessarily championing anime as my preferred medium for delivering SA (although I'd support it), but I will say that anime as a medium as excellent at handling stories this large with little to no sacrifice to those side arcs and characters you mention. Every medium has it's advantages and disadvantages. Live-action for example, as DSC01 said, would reach more people and appeal to the largest audience, while the computer animated and anime genres don't have as much appeal for most people. Computer animation, as I said, would translate the world more accurately (skyeels, stormlight investiture, emotional spren popping up everywhere, chasmfiends, races, ages, and shardblades, shardplate design, etc...) a little bit easier than most other mediums. And anime, for example, is second to none at lengthy 300, 500, and 900 episode sagas where no details of the story are missed and anime fans don't seem to mind the length of such sagas. And both computer animation and anime solve the actor age/race problem altogether. Obviously there are other mediums, obviously there are more advantages and disadvantages than I've mentioned here. But to answer your question, yes... reordering would be necessary as part of the adaptation and moving those interludes around to the appropriate spot in the story would be a simple task, assuming the medium chosen was "episodic" rather than limited by feature-length standards, limited seasonal contracts, and sudden mid-season cancellations. 1
Cemci she/her Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Well I'm sorry if I've given offense, but I am not a fan of the anime genre. And I seriously doubt that we need the Cosmere in a Stormlight Archive adaptation - unless other Cosmere works are also being adapted, with the same level of detail. So, unless we also get a Mistborn, Warbreaker or Elantris adaptation, I think anything that is in Stormlight Archive and relates directly to the Cosmere could go. In addition, what is Ashir and Geranid's viewpoint adding to the main plot? From what I can remember off the top of my head, what we learn in that interlude is that you can measure flamespren - when is that relevant? When is Axies relevant? Shallan hears about the spren forming a giant gust of water, but does that ever become important to what she does? Ishikk is the same - we learn about the Purelake, but the only other time we hear about the Purelake is when Dalinar thinks to himself that he's been there in the past. Unless these interludes specifically become relevant in future books, I don't see why, in a non-anime adaptation, they would stay in - realistically speaking.
pharaoh9000 he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 Well I'm sorry if I've given offense, but I am not a fan of the anime genre. And I seriously doubt that we need the Cosmere in a Stormlight Archive adaptation - unless other Cosmere works are also being adapted, with the same level of detail. So, unless we also get a Mistborn, Warbreaker or Elantris adaptation, I think anything that is in Stormlight Archive and relates directly to the Cosmere could go. In addition, what is Ashir and Geranid's viewpoint adding to the main plot? From what I can remember off the top of my head, what we learn in that interlude is that you can measure flamespren - when is that relevant? When is Axies relevant? Shallan hears about the spren forming a giant gust of water, but does that ever become important to what she does? Ishikk is the same - we learn about the Purelake, but the only other time we hear about the Purelake is when Dalinar thinks to himself that he's been there in the past. Unless these interludes specifically become relevant in future books, I don't see why, in a non-anime adaptation, they would stay in - realistically speaking. I took no offense... and I hear what you're saying. I am making the assumption that if there was an adaptation of any kind, that it would keep the cosmere continuity as a part of it. If not, then that is already the biggest sacrifice of them all. As The Stormlight Archive is one of Brandon Sanderson's most major cosmere novels. Making a Mistborn, Warbreaker, and Elantris too? Yes, please! 1
Cemci she/her Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I took no offense... and I hear what you're saying. I am making the assumption that if there was an adaptation of any kind, that it would keep the cosmere continuity as a part of it. If not, then that is already the biggest sacrifice of them all. As The Stormlight Archive is one of Brandon Sanderson's most major cosmere novels. Making a Mistborn, Warbreaker, and Elantris too? Yes, please! I agree that, due to the importance of Stormlight Archive in the Cosmere (and since there's actually a fair bit of Cosmere knowledge we have from SA), this would be the biggest sacrifice - which is why I would only support taking out the Cosmere in a live-action adaptation. If we get a Mistborn, Warbreaker and Elantris adaptation, too, then including the Cosmere would be absolutely fantastic - I relish every easter egg I find in cinema/TV. And since this is Fantasy Casting, I will concede that speaking about a realistic case isn't entirely appropriate. However, in a hypothetical live-action Stormlight Archive TV show, I think it must be expected that many scenes that add worldbuilding and detail would go.
pharaoh9000 he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I agree that, due to the importance of Stormlight Archive in the Cosmere (and since there's actually a fair bit of Cosmere knowledge we have from SA), this would be the biggest sacrifice - which is why I would only support taking out the Cosmere in a live-action adaptation. If we get a Mistborn, Warbreaker and Elantris adaptation, too, then including the Cosmere would be absolutely fantastic - I relish every easter egg I find in cinema/TV. And since this is Fantasy Casting, I will concede that speaking about a realistic case isn't entirely appropriate. However, in a hypothetical live-action Stormlight Archive TV show, I think it must be expected that many scenes that add worldbuilding and detail would go. Assuming that the show's producers do as you predict... characters like Wit would not be able to feature in the show. ...and I would die. We can't let them make SA Witless. 3
DSC01 he/him Posted November 12, 2015 Posted November 12, 2015 I would include the interludes. I don't think any of the Cosmere-related stuff in the books is only an Easter egg. It will all become important. Game of Thrones opened with a White Walkers scene, and I don't think we saw them again for a very long time. It didn't turn viewers off; rather, it hooked them into the series. Now, I would intersperse the interludes throughout the episodes, not bunch them together. That works as a narrative device in the books, but it would be weird for a show. I would change them a little. The ardents' observation of spren would have to be shortened. The dialog in the Purelake interlude would have to be edited to make it clear that Baon, Galladon, and Demoux are worldhoppers (yes, I would include that: Hoid is a worldhopper, and his character can't be excised from the story without really messing it up). 1
FidesFortuna he/him Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Ok so I love that we're even talking about it! So.... Despite the age consideration love Chris Pine! Hoid- David Tenant....perfect fit! Shallan - Sophie Turner. I know its redundant to slot her in another fantasy novel but I think she could kill it. Dalinar - Liam Neeson... I've suggested him for 8 different castings in these fantasy Sanderson movies hahaha. But need I say why?? Kaladin- now this one will be a little bit bold. But I say Taylor Lautner. He's young enough and with his physical skills he would fit right in as a spear and xpert Also for the Lopen- Michael Pena Oddball one but it came across my mind is for Moash- Miguel Gomez would kill it. Check him out in the strain 1
mirahound she/her Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 Ok so I love that we're even talking about it! So.... Despite the age consideration love Chris Pine! Hoid- David Tenant....perfect fit! Shallan - Sophie Turner. I know its redundant to slot her in another fantasy novel but I think she could kill it. Dalinar - Liam Neeson... I've suggested him for 8 different castings in these fantasy Sanderson movies hahaha. But need I say why?? Kaladin- now this one will be a little bit bold. But I say Taylor Lautner. He's young enough and with his physical skills he would fit right in as a spear and xpert Also for the Lopen- Michael Pena Oddball one but it came across my mind is for Moash- Miguel Gomez would kill it. Check him out in the strain Ooh, I hadn't considered David Tenant as Hoid before. That could be fun!
DSC01 he/him Posted November 13, 2015 Posted November 13, 2015 I gotta say, Michael Pena as Lopen is a pretty inspired choice. That's not how I imagine him to look at all, but I think that he could play the character perfectly. 2
DiscoDubber he/him Posted November 15, 2015 Author Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) *sits quietly in the back corner of the room, watching the action unfold with a sadistic smirk...* I absolutely LOVE the idea of David Tennant as Hoid! It's not like the man's ever played an ageless, practically immortal, sarcastic smartass time traveler that's incredibly wise before... Edited November 15, 2015 by DiscoDubber
DiscoDubber he/him Posted November 15, 2015 Author Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Well I'm sorry if I've given offense, but I am not a fan of the anime genre. And I seriously doubt that we need the Cosmere in a Stormlight Archive adaptation - unless other Cosmere works are also being adapted, with the same level of detail. So, unless we also get a Mistborn, Warbreaker or Elantris adaptation, I think anything that is in Stormlight Archive and relates directly to the Cosmere could go. In addition, what is Ashir and Geranid's viewpoint adding to the main plot? From what I can remember off the top of my head, what we learn in that interlude is that you can measure flamespren - when is that relevant? When is Axies relevant? Shallan hears about the spren forming a giant gust of water, but does that ever become important to what she does? Ishikk is the same - we learn about the Purelake, but the only other time we hear about the Purelake is when Dalinar thinks to himself that he's been there in the past. Unless these interludes specifically become relevant in future books, I don't see why, in a non-anime adaptation, they would stay in - realistically speaking. The interludes would be a difficult call. The purists would want them in, the production team might want them out as many of the interludes feel like filler or fluff (not saying they are, just that a less invested viewer could see them as such).The issue with leaving many of them out is I suspect they'll play into the plot in a stronger way later. If Hollywood sticks to its typical operation, they'd release the books independently of each other. Some of these side characters may come into bigger play in Stormlight 3. As for live-action vs animation... Both have their merits, and although I lean more to live-action due to its more organic feel, lets examine animation: Animation removes the struggle of finding the perfect LOOKING actor, and opens a broader door for casting. A great example of this is who I HEAR playing Gavilar is someone I'd NEVER cast for a live-action show... Liam Neeson. Also, animation opens the world up. Set builders and location personnel would have a hell of a time finding Roshar on Earth, let alone the Shattered Plains. So they'd have to build rather elaborate sets or CGI the setting and film in green screen. Animation allows for a custom fit world. Many animated movies look gorgeous. The art in Prince of Egypt is still beautiful... An animated feature would not have to be Anime. They could even do live-capture animation where real people form the models for the animated characters, so they move realistically. They did this in several movies. 2 that stick out is Sméagol in LOTR, and the entire Polar Express film. They can make it cartoonish or try to make it realistic, or they could go halfway. I kinda like the idea of an animated show. The question would be viewership. Although, Prince of Egypt was a box office smasher, so that may not be as big an issue as it may seem... Edited November 15, 2015 by DiscoDubber 3
pharaoh9000 he/him Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 Now that you mention the half and half thing, DiscoDubber... The newest trailers for the 2016 Warcraft movie show a great mixture of CG characters alongside live-Action ones... It's not so bad an example of how producers can get the best of both worlds if SA were ever brought to the screen. Live action and animation.
Guest Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 The interludes would be a difficult call. The purists would want them in, the production team might want them out as many of the interludes feel like filler or fluff (not saying they are, just that a less invested viewer could see them as such). The issue with leaving many of them out is I suspect they'll play into the plot in a stronger way later. Each time a book is adapted for another media, the issue is raised. On one side, you have the purists who wants the story to adapted in its totality and on the other, you have those for whom the pleasure to see their favorite book being adapted supersedes any changes the producers may make. I also believe they should settle to adapt the first arc and wait and see for the second arc. Both will be rather stand-alone. Both don't even feature the same characters, so the story can't be told into one series. Viewers will not enjoy if the cast suddenly changes after 5 seasons. If viewers are watching certain characters evolve, they won't enjoy if the suddenly become irrelevant and others take their place, unless they are dead. As I reader, I don't like it, so I can't imagine viewers. Thus it is best to separate both arc, from the beginning. I agree the interlude cannot be kept in as they are: too many currently read as page filler, world-building and Cosmere fluff. However, I think we would need to read up until book 5 to figure out which ones are relevant. For instance, Baxil's mistress smashing statues likely won't be relevant until Shalash becomes a main character which won't happen until the second arc. It serves no purpose to show it during the first series. I also personally do not think adding the interlude together with the flashbacks would make for a cohesive story which means interludes who are retained should either be condensed in the first 5 minutes or integrated within the main story arc. The flashbacks are very easy to deal with: see Lost. You include them within the main narrative, just as they did with Lost, he add a creepy music to tell the viewers you are doing a flashbacks. The format worked quite well with Lost, so it would be easy to adapt for SA. However, I think it likely the producers wouldn't condensed Kaladin's flashbacks within the first season. It is possible they decide to present flashbacks for all characters in an alternate way, much as they did for Lost simply to increase the viewers interest in all characters. It would yield a story told in a different way, but I would like to see the end result. Word-hopping would seriously be too confusing for viewers, this has to go. As for live-action vs animation... Both have their merits, and although I lean more to live-action due to its more organic feel, lets examine animation: Animation removes the struggle of finding the perfect LOOKING actor, and opens a broader door for casting. A great example of this is who I HEAR playing Gavilar is someone I'd NEVER cast for a live-action show... Liam Neeson. Also, animation opens the world up. Set builders and location personnel would have a hell of a time finding Roshar on Earth, let alone the Shattered Plains. So they'd have to build rather elaborate sets or CGI the setting and film in green screen. Animation allows for a custom fit world. I prefer live-action because real actors are able to convey emotions in a way anything animated fails to. Viewers also grow more easily attached to real characters as opposed to generic ones. I don't think the casting is an impossible one either, but it likely won't cast anyone known and since we, the readers, have only access to known actors, it is extremely hard to find the right ones. Producers have access to hordes of unknown talented actors, especially young ones. As I said numerous times, GoT was not filmed on a green screen, but the scenery was changed in every single scene. Every thing you see is computer made, the castles, the landscapes, everything. What is the difference in designing a complex castle or a city for GoT with designing the Shattered Plains? It is just the same level of complexity. As for battles, GoT battles were made with little people. The CGI people took the soldiers and they artificially multiplied them to fill-in the screen... This was all done with the GoT budget. SA wouldn't be much more expensive to do and by the time they do, the price will have drop some more. I think a lot of people are underestimating the amount of CGI in GoT and use it as a basis to state SA would need much more. Yes, there is more, but it not as great as people think. The most difficult would likely be animating creatures such as the chasmfiend and perhaps the sprens. The scenery though is rather easy and it would look much neater than anything pure animation would be able to convey.
DreamEternal Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 I prefer live-action because real actors are able to convey emotions in a way anything animated fails to. Viewers also grow more easily attached to real characters as opposed to generic ones. The scenery though is rather easy and it would look much neater than anything pure animation would be able to convey. Both of these things are highly subjective, and calling animated characters "generic" makes little sense, and sounds like a terribly big understimation of an entire medium. 3
Guest Posted November 15, 2015 Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) Both of these things are highly subjective, and calling animated characters "generic" makes little sense, and sounds like a terribly big understimation of an entire medium. Allow me to rephrase: I personally find animated characters generic and I am personally unable to develop an emotional attachment to a cartoon no matter how realistic it may be. I would personally never be able to fear or to feel for a character which is not real. While this solely remains my personal opinion, I can assure you it is shared by a large subset of the main population in North-America. However, since I do not have exact statistics, I cannot gauge how large this large subset actually is. The qualification merely derives from personal observations, so feel free to discard if you believe I am making an overstatement. I simply believe it is simply a disadvantage of animation: you are always going to appeal to a lower audience. I personally would not watch the Stormlight Archive, the Anime series. Of course, liking or dislike a medium always is purely subjective. Anime just don't appeal to everyone, just as reality shows are not everyone's cup of tea. Edited November 16, 2015 by maxal
DSC01 he/him Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I don't think it's fair to say that animated characters are generic, but one must admit that animation just isn't taken as seriously as live action. Some comments I've seen about the White graphic novel adaptation indicate that some people feel like we're not really getting the real thing. Sure, that's a little different, but it demonstrates that there are people who feel like a medium where the characters are drawn is subpar. Also, you know, I think Aramis Knight has a good Alethi-ish look. He's only 16 now, but I bet he could play one of the leads in a few years.
mirahound she/her Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Also, you know, I think Aramis Knight has a good Alethi-ish look. He's only 16 now, but I bet he could play one of the leads in a few years. Oh my gosh, he's perfect! I can see him playing a really good Kaladin.
Guest Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Oh my gosh, he's perfect! I can see him playing a really good Kaladin. Yeah, I have to admit I actually like it. Well not now, but in a few years.
Navy Seon he/him Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 I think liam neeson would make a great dalinar. 3
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