Stormlight Archive Fantasy Casting

[I_am_NOT_fire]

Poor Alan Rickman.

[Kaladin al'Thor]

I kinda see Dolph Lundgren (or some other big, beefy body builder type) as Rock. My problem is the way Michael Kramer reads Rock is with a kind of Pacific Islander accent (which given the language of the Horneaters, which sounds a little Hawaiian, makes sense). So we'd have to find a tall, bulky, pale skinned actor (like Lundgren) who can do an Islander accent.

 

Or you know... The Rock!

 

It's too bad that Sadeas couldn't smeeeelllll what Rock was cookin! All that chull dung must have been bad for his stomach.. and his breath! Okay I will stop indulging my 10 year old WWF fan inner self..

Edited October 28, 2015 by Kaladin al'Thor

[Brightlord he/him]

I thought Anthony Carrigan would make a marvelous Szeth.  Emma Stone could possibly pull off Shallan, I think; she's witty enough, she'd just also have to be bashful enough.

 

I love the idea of Rickman as Sadeas.

Justin Bartha seems like he'd make a good Renarin.  Just understated enough to be bookish, while also looking like he could be Chris Pine's younger brother.

[Guest]

I thought Anthony Carrigan would make a marvelous Szeth.  Emma Stone could possibly pull off Shallan, I think; she's witty enough, she'd just also have to be bashful enough.

 

I love the idea of Rickman as Sadeas.

Justin Bartha seems like he'd make a good Renarin.  Just understated enough to be bookish, while also looking like he could be Chris Pine's younger brother.

 

I hate to say that but... Emma Stone is too old to play Shallan (she is 17). Shallan looks like a girl: Sebrarial thought she was 14. Justin Bartha is waaaaaaaaay to old for Renarin. He also is older than Chris Pine so.... no. Chris Pine is more than a decade too old for Adolin and Justin Bartha is nearly 2 decades too old for Renarin. Why cast some mid-thirty actors for the youngsters? 

 

Doesn't someone have suggestion which are age appropriate?

 

10 bucks to someone who can find me a good Adolin/Renarin/Shallan/Kaladin. I suck at looking up actors, I haven't seen most of the recent movies. 

[Brightlord he/him]

I hate to say that but... Emma Stone is too old to play Shallan (she is 17). Shallan looks like a girl: Sebrarial thought she was 14. Justin Bartha is waaaaaaaaay to old for Renarin. He also is older than Chris Pine so.... no. Chris Pine is more than a decade too old for Adolin and Justin Bartha is nearly 2 decades too old for Renarin. Why cast some mid-thirty actors for the youngsters? 

 

Doesn't someone have suggestion which are age appropriate?

 

10 bucks to someone who can find me a good Adolin/Renarin/Shallan/Kaladin. I suck at looking up actors, I haven't seen most of the recent movies. 

Because it's not about the actors' age, but their perceived age?  Emma Stone has played teenagers before (Easy A, Amazing Spider-Man) and looked the part.  Though, admittedly, stretching to 14 would be rough.  Unfortunately, neither Felicia Day nor Bonnie...something from Harry Potter look the part anymore. The only decent actress I can think of that LOOKS the part is Lindy Booth. (Though Chloe Grace-Moretz with red hair...)

Chris Pine could easily look mid-20s, and Justin Bartha DOES look late-teens, early-20s without any cinematic fountains of youth.  People are constantly cast as people 10-20 years younger than themselves in Hollywood as long as it's possible to make them look as young, which it is for all of these actors/actresses.

But since you seem to insist on being so bloody literal, for these three:

Chloe Grace-Moretz as Shallan [probably actually a great choice]

Logan Lerman as Renarin 

Luke Benward as Adolin (who, by the way, looks older than Chris Pine, but is younger than Adolin)

Of course, you could get a much better movie by casting people that looked the part and could actually act than just casting because they line up age-wise.  Lighten Emma Stone's hair, light her face well, she'd easily pass for 14.  Pine already passes for 25. Bartha could use the same tricks as Stone.  The cast of 90210 famously played teenagers for a decade, and that was using 90s-era cinematography.  Johnny Depp is 52, looks mid-20s.

[Guest]

 

Because it's not about the actors' age, but their perceived age?  Emma Stone has played teenagers before (Easy A, Amazing Spider-Man) and looked the part.  Though, admittedly, stretching to 14 would be rough.  Unfortunately, neither Felicia Day nor Bonnie...something from Harry Potter look the part anymore. The only decent actress I can think of that LOOKS the part is Lindy Booth. (Though Chloe Grace-Moretz with red hair...)

Chris Pine could easily look mid-20s, and Justin Bartha DOES look late-teens, early-20s without any cinematic fountains of youth.  People are constantly cast as people 10-20 years younger than themselves in Hollywood as long as it's possible to make them look as young, which it is for all of these actors/actresses.

But since you seem to insist on being so bloody literal, for these three:
Chloe Grace-Moretz as Shallan [probably actually a great choice]
Logan Lerman as Renarin 
Luke Benward as Adolin (who, by the way, looks older than Chris Pine, but is younger than Adolin)

Of course, you could get a much better movie by casting people that looked the part and could actually act than just casting because they line up age-wise.  Lighten Emma Stone's hair, light her face well, she'd easily pass for 14.  Pine already passes for 25. Bartha could use the same tricks as Stone.  The cast of 90210 famously played teenagers for a decade, and that was using 90s-era cinematography.  Johnny Depp is 52, looks mid-20s.

 

Simply because Hollywood cast too old actors in most roles does not make it plausible. Emma Stone has indeed played teenagers, before, but now she has gotten too old to do it, again. 

 

 

 

See how when she smiles, we see the small signs of aging around her mouth? She is not old, but it's one sharp difference between a late twenties women and a teenager. See the eyes? The mouth? The face who has lost its juvenile feel?

 

There are lot of pics where it is more obvious, but I can't linked them.

 

 

That's when she was young enough to pull it of, that's when she was in the right age range to be plausible as a teenager. 

 

Chris Pine does not look mid-twenties: he looks in his thirties. He is not believable as Adolin. Justin Bartha is almost 40 years old and no, he does not look like a teenager. Not even close.

 

 

That's not a 19 years old teenager: this is a mature man.

 

This is Chris Pine when he was Adolin's age.

 

 

Or this:

 

 

 

Yes, this is how young Adolin is. 

 

This is Chris Pine now.

 

 

See the difference? The first one has the right age, but not the right hair color. The second one has gotten too old. See his face? See the small signs of age? The small riddles we unfortunate mid-thirties do start to get? You see it, on the forehead, under the eyes. See how his hair line has started to recede? Yeah, that sucks, but it happens to all men... His face also is less fresh, but more defined: that's the difference between an early twenties man and a mid-thirties one.

 

The last pic is actually better:

 

 

He does not look older than current day Chris Pine. I'm not sure he's a good Adolin (I am not getting an Adolin vibe from him), but at least, he's in the right age range.

 

Johnny Depp does not look 25... Come on... He looks younger than his actual age, that's a fact. He's one of the rare male actor who can pull of younger character convincingly, but young men anymore. He could pass as forty something instead of fifty something, but below it is stretching it.

 

Half of Beverly Hill casts did not look like teenagers... How old they look was a laughing joke back in the day... but teenagers didn't get it. Why? Because it is hard to evaluate the age of someone who's older than you. When you are 15, 25 or 35 seems the same. When you are 35... well I'll say from personal experience we all wished we still looked as we did a decade ago. Just the face... Awwwwww. It can't be forgiven. And the hair... Gee. Raise your hand mid-thirties men who have not start to feel as if you were losing your hair? Life is cruel. 

 

 

[Cemci she/her]

 

But since you seem to insist on being so bloody literal, for these three:
Chloe Grace-Moretz as Shallan [probably actually a great choice]
Logan Lerman as Renarin 
Luke Benward as Adolin (who, by the way, looks older than Chris Pine, but is younger than Adolin)

Of course, you could get a much better movie by casting people that looked the part and could actually act than just casting because they line up age-wise.  Lighten Emma Stone's hair, light her face well, she'd easily pass for 14.  Pine already passes for 25. Bartha could use the same tricks as Stone.  The cast of 90210 famously played teenagers for a decade, and that was using 90s-era cinematography.  Johnny Depp is 52, looks mid-20s.

 

This. The actors you mention aren't necessarily bad (I quite like Logan Lerman), but bad acting can break a film; since we're talking about our own fantasy casting, it's riskier to go with people who are less known for quality acting but who fit the age and look description.

 

Personally, I would be willing to accept actors that are slightly older than the characters, because the age isn't a massive qualifier for me in the books. In my mind, it doesn't matter whether Shallan looks 14, 17 or 21, because at 21 you can look childish and frazzled enough to be patronised by the Alethi court. 

 

And this wouldn't be the first time that aging up a cast has worked; how difficult do you think it would have been to find a 11-year old Sansa for Game of Thrones? Sophie Turner looked nothing like 11 in Season 1. 

[Cemci she/her]

On a side note, how about this for Adolin? Anthony Ingruber (25, Canadian) - has been cast for his resemblance to a young Harrison Ford, and didn't do too badly as far as the acting went.

 

[Guest]

 

 

 

This. The actors you mention aren't necessarily bad (I quite like Logan Lerman), but bad acting can break a film; since we're talking about our own fantasy casting, it's riskier to go with people who are less known for quality acting but who fit the age and look description.

 

Personally, I would be willing to accept actors that are slightly older than the characters, because the age isn't a massive qualifier for me in the books. In my mind, it doesn't matter whether Shallan looks 14, 17 or 21, because at 21 you can look childish and frazzled enough to be patronised by the Alethi court. 

 

And this wouldn't be the first time that aging up a cast has worked; how difficult do you think it would have been to find a 11-year old Sansa for Game of Thrones? Sophie Turner looked nothing like 11 in Season 1. 

 

 

Children are a different matter: they are very hard to cast. An 11 years old may not have managed to play Sansa, so they had to go with an older actress. They did the same thing when they ages Claudia from 5 to 12 in Interview with the Vampire as the role was too complex for child actor. 

 

However 20 years old is not too young to be played adequately. The actors do not need to be known, they can go with unknown ones. As I said, it is not as if Hollywood has a shortage of those. 

 

While 21 years old could be fine for Shallan, late-twenties is pushing it too far, just as mid-thirties is pushing it too far for Adolin or Renarin. The argument "talent needs to prime" does not hold. Age appropriate actors to exist. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know I am difficult... I don't get an Adolin vibe from Anthony either... He is missing something... and I don't like his nose 

[Cemci she/her]

 

I know I am difficult... I don't get an Adolin vibe from Anthony either... He is missing something... and I don't like his nose 

 

This is hilarious you're impossible to satisfy!

 

Nobody on this thread is ever going to agree on a single actor to play a character. So how about we agree on a range of different actors that would fit the profile?

 

I for one don't get the Shallan vibe from Chloe Grace Moretz - Chloe is a little....too girly?... to play Shallan, I think. Shallan has some dark parts, she killed both her parents after all, even though she isn't always in a normal state of mind, having repressed the memories. She's also quite pragmatic, I think. She's deeply disturbed when Jasnah kills the thugs, but shrugs off murdering Tyn within a few seconds. 

[Guest]

This is hilarious you're impossible to satisfy!

 

Nobody on this thread is ever going to agree on a single actor to play a character. So how about we agree on a range of different actors that would fit the profile?

 

I for one don't get the Shallan vibe from Chloe Grace Moretz - Chloe is a little....too girly?... to play Shallan, I think. Shallan has some dark parts, she killed both her parents after all, even though she isn't always in a normal state of mind, having repressed the memories. She's also quite pragmatic, I think. She's deeply disturbed when Jasnah kills the thugs, but shrugs off murdering Tyn within a few seconds. 

 

I will be very critic of who you cast as Adolin....  I am nearly impossible to satisfy, that is true   He needs to be blond, handsome and age appropriate... but each time I google young blond male actors, I never get anyone I like   They don't have the right face... Not fresh enough, not handsome enough, not with the right spark in the eyes, not with the right smile.... 

 

Chloe is not bad... but I'd see her more as Shshshshshsh... namely Adolin's mother, when she married Dalinar, though it would be better to cast an older actress for that role (so again back to age, it works both ways). This is however how I always pictured her: a naive girlish blond headed woman and I kind of want to see some of it in Adolin. 

[Cemci she/her]

I realise we're concentrating a bit much on Adolin, but how about this guy:

Alex Pettyfer, 25, British (got the right accent? might be worth making the eye-colour difference obvious with a difference in accents)

 

Has a bit of a douche-bag vibe about him, but Kaladin's perception of Adolin as a spoiled brat should come from somewhere, after all.

 

EDIT: Is it even relevant to discuss a whole bunch of white and caucasian actors for characters that are definitely not? We're engaging in some serious white-washing here.

 

Edited November 1, 2015 by Cemci

[Guest]

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I don't like his ears and his face is not... right. His eyes are not blue 

 

     

 

We don't have to focus on Adolin  For all that matters, young Chris Pine is not a bad choice (providing he can look good in blond which is yet to be seen, but his facials are OK), he is just too old for the part now.

 

Oh yeah, the white-washing... The problem is Alethi aren't any distinct ethnicity, but to be more exact we'd need to go somewhere in Asia to make the casting, mainly because of the eyes, but even that is not exact either. Alethi hair is not Asian hair, it comes in various style such as curly and wavy (Kaladin is describes as having wavy hair). Their facial features, apart from the eyes are likely not necessarily exactly Asian either. Their skin tone is tanned, which can be found in many ethnicity, not just Asian. In fact, many Asian are too pale skinned to play Alethi, so huh. One of my Chinese colleague is paler skinned than I. So which feature do you chose to be "exact" on? The eyes? The hair? The face? The skin? You can't get them all.

 

A lot of people like Polynesian or Indian, but most are dark skinned rather than tanned. It truly depends on how dark you think "tan" means. According to Google, tanned skin is near the middle on the skin color scale and is found in many ethnicity such as Asian and Caucasian (not everyone is as paled skin as the British or the average American) while Indian are definitely dark. Indian or Polynesian skin also do not sun burn (there is a whole article on skin color on Wikipedia) while Alethi do burn if they stay too long under the sun (Wit laughs of someone's sun burn in WoK), so Alethi have to be lighter skin than those. For my part, tan is my own skin color or slightly darker when I spend enough time under the sun (or it would be if I lived in sunny California), which incidentally is identical to my half-blooded colleague who has an Indian mother. 

 

So huh. Most people disagrees with me, but I personally don't picture Alethi as Indian or Japanese, more as Western Asian, Eastern Europe, somewhere in that corner, but really it makes any casting threads impossible as there are not many actors to be find in those corners. 

 

Pick your camp, but I'd say previous discussions on the matter went down quite bad. I expect a negative response to this post as my views are not shared by everyone.

Edited November 1, 2015 by maxal

[DSC01 he/him]

I imagined Alethi as looking more or less Caucasian, just with epicanthic folds on their eyes and a darker skin tone. That's pretty much how the illustrations portray them. I think all of the races on Roshar don't have exactly corresponding representations on Earth. It would be pretty easy to use makeup and such to achieve the right effect, but that would probably be somewhat problematic in today's political climate. Maybe if there was enough racial diversity, across the board, and every cast member was made up to more precisely match the Rosharan races, things would be okay. But I still think that there'd be accusations of whitewashing, blackface, yellowface, etc.

 

Indian and Islander actors would probably be the closest fit, but many of them would still require makeup to get the epicanthic folds right. I think that Sendhil Ramamurthy (Dr. Suresh from Heroes) could make a good Kaladin, actually, based on looks alone (though he is a bit old). Temuera Morrison would be a good Dalinar, I think. But both of them would probably need the eye makeup, and people might consider that offensive. 

 

Check this for why I think Temuera Morrison would be good as Dalinar: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/scorpionking/images/a/a9/Temuera_morrison.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120404023316

[I Am Stick]

• Shallan - Emma Stone
• Kaladin - Richard Madden
• Jasnah - Alexa Davalos
• Sadeas - Javier Bardem just because he's amazing
• Adolin - Alex Pettyfer
• Syl - Ellen Page or Ellie Fanning
• Rock - Jason Momoa
• Nightblood - James Spader or a bit leftfield Christoph Waltz

Edit

I'd also have Eddie redmayne as pattern

And Ray winstone as Gaz

Oh and Shia lebeuf as wit as he talks to much and a bit mad. He can also shout encouraging 'just do its' at everyone

Edited November 1, 2015 by I Am Stick

[Quiver he/him]

In my head, Dalinar is Edward James Olmos. He's probably too old to play Dalinar, but still- he has the gravitas and the charisma.

[FeatherWriter she/her]

I hate to say that but... Emma Stone is too old to play Shallan (she is 17). Shallan looks like a girl: Sebrarial thought she was 14. Justin Bartha is waaaaaaaaay to old for Renarin. He also is older than Chris Pine so.... no. Chris Pine is more than a decade too old for Adolin and Justin Bartha is nearly 2 decades too old for Renarin. Why cast some mid-thirty actors for the youngsters? 

 

Doesn't someone have suggestion which are age appropriate?

 

10 bucks to someone who can find me a good Adolin/Renarin/Shallan/Kaladin. I suck at looking up actors, I haven't seen most of the recent movies. 

 

Okay I'm terrible at fancasting, but I have a few that I'm fairly sold on. Kogiopsis got me hooked on Suraj Sharma (age 22) to play Renarin and honestly, I cannot view anyone else as him. (Obligatory Glasses Pic.)They'd have to dye his hair with some blond streaks, but let's be real, Alethi hair is so weird everyone's going to need a dye job and probably contacts.

 

Shallan is hard, but I've pictured her a little bit like Tiffany Hwang (age 26) from Girl's Generation (SNSD)? Probably because Tiffany likes to wear red hair. She's probably a little too old, but... you get the idea. That said, I should probably find someone who is actually an actress, rather than a pop star. Bluh, that'd be effort.

 

As for Kaladin... I know there's some people who think that Luke Pasqualino (age 25) is too white to play an Alethi, since he's Italian, but honestly... I think he could pull it off. And he just looks SO Kaladin to me. I just see him and say "Oh look, it's Kaladin again." I can't help it. He's just got such great Kaladin expressions too...

 

And now I'm out of really good fancasts, because as said, I'm really bad at this. That said, I think Bollywood actors and actresses would be great for Alethi, especially since there's such a wide range of talent there to draw on. The only person who should really probably be a white actor is Szeth, right?

[Guest]

I imagined Alethi as looking more or less Caucasian, just with epicanthic folds on their eyes and a darker skin tone. That's pretty much how the illustrations portray them. I think all of the races on Roshar don't have exactly corresponding representations on Earth. It would be pretty easy to use makeup and such to achieve the right effect, but that would probably be somewhat problematic in today's political climate. Maybe if there was enough racial diversity, across the board, and every cast member was made up to more precisely match the Rosharan races, things would be okay. But I still think that there'd be accusations of whitewashing, blackface, yellowface, etc.

 

Indian and Islander actors would probably be the closest fit, but many of them would still require makeup to get the epicanthic folds right. I think that Sendhil Ramamurthy (Dr. Suresh from Heroes) could make a good Kaladin, actually, based on looks alone (though he is a bit old). Temuera Morrison would be a good Dalinar, I think. But both of them would probably need the eye makeup, and people might consider that offensive. 

 

Check this for why I think Temuera Morrison would be good as Dalinar: http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/scorpionking/images/a/a9/Temuera_morrison.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120404023316

 

I agree it is impossible to make casting decision without being accused of something... which is why those discussions always derail 

 

In order to facilitate it, it would probably be wise to just drop the eyes and focus on the skin color instead. You can then cast actors ranging from India to Western Asia or even Arabic while being able to pick into Western European or American for some of the lighteyes and not cause a clash. Though you'd have to be mindful of the skin tone, any "white" actor you'd cast would need to be tanned, so forget British unless you can tan one easily enough on a beach somewhere. This way, you can cast a true blond head for Adolin and a true red head for Shallan instead of artificially dying the hair of some black haired actor which would not look natural, IMHO.

 

My personal thoughts, very unpopular thoughts I must say, are the easiest casting would be to cast the darkeyes with Indians (or around that corner, you could also go full Japanese and it would work) and slightly move towards Europe as you cast the lighteyes. The more impure the blood line (Adolin, Renarin, Danlan, Ialai, Laral, etc), the more you move towards Europe in your casting. 

 

I would cast the Veden as the whitest skinned of them all except perhaps Szeth, but the distinction between the two may be hard to make. 

 

That's my personal take, but last time I venture into stating it, it severely derailed, so I'll re-emphasis this is my personal opinion. I believe the Alethi are ambiguous enough you could go many ways and still be true to the story. I would personally go for a multi-ethnic cast with an emphasis on the ethnic, but I would cast some roles to big bad evil white actors.

 

Kaladin, of all characters, should be cast with an ethnic actor. He should also be handsome (even if not describe as such), because it would the audience would like it this way   Suresh is not a bad choice, but he has gotten too old and I have made my point on the age of actors 

 

Edit: Pasqualino is not white skinned... In fact, he is exactly the right skin tone which is tanned. He'd make a good Kaladin, but in order to be more "politically correct", it probably is best to find someone who's not European.

Edited November 1, 2015 by maxal

[Mailliw73 he/him]

Feather, I think you might've sold me on that Kaladin. I've only ever seen fanart that's closer to my imagination of him.

[DSC01 he/him]

Okay I'm terrible at fancasting, but I have a few that I'm fairly sold on. Kogiopsis got me hooked on Suraj Sharma (age 22) to play Renarin and honestly, I cannot view anyone else as him. (Obligatory Glasses Pic.)They'd have to dye his hair with some blond streaks, but let's be real, Alethi hair is so weird everyone's going to need a dye job and probably contacts.

 

I almost suggested this myself, oddly enough. I came up with the notion independently, too, which is really weird.

 

Good choice for Kaladin, too.

[KnightGradient]

Seriously feather, both Kaladin and Shallan are amazing, and you screwed my perception of Renarin up. Pasqualino is way dark enough, as Kaladin spent his childhood in a surgery room instead of a field. What really gets me for Shallan's fancast is that her eyes are PERFECT! You are pretty rad at fancasting in my opinion.

[FeatherWriter she/her]

So Maxal, does this mean I get that 10 bucks?

 

Edit: In my defense, Kurkistan once tried to cash in on the fact that I bet my arm on something, and after that, I've become much more aware of things being bet and bartered on the forums.

[Guest]

So Maxal, does this mean I get that 10 bucks?

 

Edit: In my defense, Kurkistan once tried to cash in on the fact that I bet my arm on something, and after that, I've become much more aware of things being bet and bartered on the forums.

 

You get 10 bucks for Kaladin  I agree with him as a choice, but I also wished for more ethnic actors as well. I'd put him into the "possible choices" though. 

 

You don't get 10 bucks for Shallan and Adolin   Your Shallan is too much... I dunno... I did not get a Shallan vibe  I know, I am horrible  I'm a tough crowd 

 

I am partial for Renarin, not that I think your choice is bad, but I want a family here. There aren't a lot of descriptive when it comes to Renarin which gives us a lot of latitude.. Does he favors his father's Alethi side or his mother's foreign side? He could either look like Adolin or not. So with your Renarin, we need an appropriate Dalinar. It also means all the Kholins would go Indian, minus Adolin who doesn't look like anyone and no Indian with dyed hair is not working for me    I know, I am impossible 

 

Nobody has found me a good Adolin       Blond headed. Handsome. Age appropriate. Surely it exists. 

[CHOUTAGOD he/him]

How about Alexander Ludwig for Adolin? You know, Cato from the " Hunger Games ".

[Guest]

How about Alexander Ludwig for Adolin? You know, Cato from the " Hunger Games ".

 

Cato or Bjorn Ironside in Vikings   I loved Cato, poor tragic character  He is not a bad choice, I had think of him in the past. He is the right age, he is blond, his portrayal of Bjorn Ironside does fit with Adolin (warrior with a heart) so it is a huge plus, for me, but.... 

 

Two things.

 

I know.    I am impossible.

 

He may be too tall....       In Vikings, he's easily a head taller than most. At 6.2 feet, he's a tall guy. Adolin is a tall guy as well, but... he is not as tall as Dalinar and Kaladin, so if you cast a 6.2 feet tall actor for Adolin, you need taller ones for both Dalinar and Kaladin... which is hard to find.

 

He is also very... white. I think we can go paler skin for Adolin due to his foreign mother he does favor, but Ludwig is very white. In Vikings, he is as pale as a pint of milk. He is whiter than Rollo. While I don't expect Adolin to be very dark in terms of skin (inheriting most of his mother's hair means he inherited most of her genetic codes, which would include skin color), but still... I dunno what he'll look like if we tan him a bit. 

 

I'd put him in the pot to pick from, but I don't know... He is not exactly right.

 

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