Shardlet he/him Posted December 27, 2013 Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Sounds like Rashek must have shifted the axis of Scadrial then. In the discussion of the scrapped ending, one of the issues Brandon discusses is the day/night cycle at the location of the well (pre-Rashek). One of the reason's he opted to move the well was to have a normal day/night cycle at Luthadel (i.e., the location of the well. All this is assuming Sazed's accuracy (which I have no reason to doubt, but still may not be correct). Upvote for the great quotes though, Weiry. Edited December 27, 2013 by Shardlet
Oudeis he/him Posted January 3, 2014 Author Posted January 3, 2014 The theory is definitely plausible; I had assumed he got stabbed for the same reason Elend got stabbed, but you're right that the description doesn't fit. Though that begs the question of why Ruin doesn't pull the same trick again. I guess it might have been energy-intensive and he wound up thoroughly outmaneuvered that time, so he didn't want to expend the effort of trying that route again unless needed.. Why didn't Ruin directly stab anyone? Beyond my guess that he didn't have access to his shadow of self without knowing where the atium was, there's the fact that everything was going according to plan. Vin was on her way to the Well, convinced that she had to release the power, which is exactly what Ruin wanted. When Sazed, who might have stopped her, tried to stop her, Marsh showed up to stop him. Why send Marsh and not directly manifest? I dunno. In any event, what Ruin did worked, so that's probably why he didn't do something different. Someone asked, obviously in a different thread cuz I can't find it, what happened to the knife. If the Mist Spirit in Classic Scadrial stabbed Fedik, why did no one find the knife? To which I give you this answer. Twice in Well of Ascension, Preservation's shadow of self manifests physically as a metal. Once, he's standing in a tent over Elend, she strikes at him, and feels resistance, as though someone had blocked her dagger with a weapon. The second time, he actually does stab Elend, not with any object, but just his own substance. So, that's clearly an ability "shadows of self" can do.
Serity Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) I'd say it makes sense for the mist spirit in Alendi's logbook to be Ruin. I doubt Brandon would have included multiple references to Alendi's mist spirit as dark, black, and shadowy if it was of Preservation when Ruin's theme color is black. I suppose the atium explanation also makes sense, although I hope this gets resolved more clearly in the futre. Adding this to the Questions for Brandon thread. Edited August 5, 2014 by PrometheusLKR
Left he/him Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 A lot of these quotes are pulled from the travel log right? Well we've already seen that Ruin changed parts of the log, so could it be that he just messed with things to make people mistrust the mist spirit even more?
Serity Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 A lot of these quotes are pulled from the travel log right? Well we've already seen that Ruin changed parts of the log, so could it be that he just messed with things to make people mistrust the mist spirit even more? I find it odd to think that Ruin would alter the logbook, and the only thing he changed was the color of the mist spirit, a detail that no one who read the logbook even noticed. The logbook already served Ruin's purposes by convincing Vin to release the power, he had no need to alter it. If anything, I would think he would have altered it to make the mist spirit in the logbook look more like Leras, not less. 1
Paragrin she/her Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 And besides, I don't think Ruin can alter the epigraphs. We got the unaltered version of Kwaan's inscription in book two, after all.
WeiryWriter he/him Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 And besides, I don't think Ruin can alter the epigraphs. We got the unaltered version of Kwaan's inscription in book two, after all. If it isn't set in metal he can change it. That's a big plot point for book two, he was changing Kwaan's words after they were transferred from the metal plate.
Serity Posted August 7, 2014 Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) If it isn't set in metal he can change it. That's a big plot point for book two, he was changing Kwaan's words after they were transferred from the metal plate. The point he's trying to make is that even though he changed the version Sazed read, we the readers still got the unaltered version in the epigraphs, so presumably all the epigraphs are likewise unaltered. Edited August 7, 2014 by PrometheusLKR 2
Paragrin she/her Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Yes, thank you, Prometheus. (And I am in fact female, btw...)
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