Yata he/him Posted April 20, 2017 Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Weltall said: I'm not sure it's a distinction with a difference in this case. He uses 'Shadows' as an oath, shade and shadow are derived from the same root, the book that introduced Threnody and is all about the Shades is called Shadows for Silence... and we have two sources implying that Nazh uses Shades in some way But whether you think he was talking about a Shade specifically or a Cognitive Shadow more generally, he's explicit that it's something you could do deliberately, with attendant rituals. That should extend to Shades as well as more self-aware manifestations. Maybe I misread what you write but Shade isn't more self-aware manifestations. It's the opposite, Shades are less self-aware manifestations than the standard Cognitive Shadow. About the "deliberately" yes you could become a Shade if you want. You need only to go in the forest and break the Simple Rules near a Shade. It will kill you and turn into a Shade...not rituals required. This is the reason I think Nazh refer to being other than the Shades. He talk to his Shadow as an honor and with resprect. Not the Therenodite attitude with the Shades. Much more, I think Nazh is too old to know the Shade as the modern Therenodite discovered them quite "recently" (a couple of generation before SfSitFoH). But you have right, I can't be sure 1
asterion137 he/him Posted May 14, 2017 Posted May 14, 2017 On 4/20/2017 at 11:23 AM, Yata said: SfSitFoH that's quite the acronym
Survivor of the flames Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 I agree something is fishy about calling it hell and I refuse to think it's a coincidence. I don't know if it would be a cosmere wide hell. Brandon has always left what is beyond the cognitive realm up to interpretation not even shards know what is beyond. I feel like if hell was just another planet in the cosmere it wouldn't be quite as mysterious. 2
IGetLIFTed she/her Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 @StormyAngelI know I’m really late as I just finished Arcanum Unbounded, but if the Threnodites are dead, then what are the shades? Double dead?
Karger he/him Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 10:53 PM, IGetLIFTed said: I know I’m really late as I just finished Arcanum Unbounded, but if the Threnodites are dead, then what are the shades? Double dead? They are quite clearly not dead.
Calderis he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/29/2019 at 0:01 PM, Karger said: They are quite clearly not dead. They're Cognitive Shadows. By definition they're "dead." They just didn't leave.
Karger he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 Just now, Calderis said: They're Cognitive Shadows. By definition they're "dead." They just didn't leave. Ordinary Threnodites are CS?
Calderis he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Karger said: Ordinary Threnodites are CS? Misread, and thought they were talking about shades... Why would Threnodites be dead?
Karger he/him Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 19 minutes ago, Calderis said: Misread, and thought they were talking about shades... Why would Threnodites be dead? A theory that Threnody is actually the beyond.
Scion of the Mists Posted June 6, 2019 Posted June 6, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 3:41 PM, Karger said: A theory that Threnody is actually the beyond. Brandon has repeatedly said we're not going to get answers about the Beyond. Also, Nazh is from Threnody.
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