SwiftSteel he/him Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 So TLR had expanded knowledge concerning the metals: he knew about aluminum, electrum, and probably duralumin. It would make sense if he knew the Feruchemal uses of these metals as well. Feruchemal aluminum: Stores identity Feruchemal electrum: Stores determination Ferucehmal duralumin: Stores connection I think it would make sense that TLR had a few aluminumminds that he was constantly filling at an extremely high rate. After all, why would he want to remember himself as Rashek the packman. Lately, I've been seing a lot of posts that say that filling identity also fills spiritual identity, theoretically allowing another Ferring or Feruchemist to tap the other's metalminds. So can TLR's metalminds show up in the future and be able to be accessed?
Phantom Monstrosity Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 They got sold off at the end of Mistborn. I've always assumed that Hoid purchased them for his mysterious ends, but there's no canon support for that. Either that, or somebody burned them, which... well, that's got some weird, not-totally-decided-yet effects.
KChan she/her Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 I'm not sure that the Lord Ruler was storing identity, at least not to the extent you claim. After all, he seemed pretty aware of who he was when Vin addressed him as Rashek. Let's also forget that he originally took power at the Well to keep Ruin from being released, and was actively working to keep his power suppressed. If he lost his identity as Rashek, wouldn't he lose the part of himself that made those choices? I'm not sure that's something he'd want to happen. However, if he were to compound his identity as the Lord Ruler, in addition to compounding his connection to the people as their god/ruler? Perhaps that's one of the reasons his force of personality seemed so far beyond that of a mortal man. 1
Morsk he/him Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 (edited) However, if he were to compound his identity as the Lord Ruler, in addition to compounding his connection to the people as their god/ruler? Perhaps that's one of the reasons his force of personality seemed so far beyond that of a mortal man.I like the parallel between that and tapping iron to weigh more when pushing. In addition to making the connection stronger, tapping identity would protect the Lord Ruler from being effected just as much as the audience. A side-effect of being seen as a god could be to think of yourself as a god, with identity being the only protection. Edited April 21, 2013 by Morsk 1
Voidus Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Well IMO TLR seemed to have a pretty solid self-identity, he was very confident in his rule and that he was doing the right thing, those sorts of ideals stem from a strong sense of identity, so I'd be more inclined to go with Kchans suggestion, if anything I'd say he compounded Identity.
Vortaan he/him Posted April 21, 2013 Posted April 21, 2013 Well IMO TLR seemed to have a pretty solid self-identity, he was very confident in his rule and that he was doing the right thing, those sorts of ideals stem from a strong sense of identity, so I'd be more inclined to go with Kchans suggestion, if anything I'd say he compounded Identity. The plates he left in the storage caverns paint a different picture. He wavers between being aware of his mistakes and being completely confident that he is right. I think towards the end of his reign he stopped questioning what actions were his and which were Ruin's.
KChan she/her Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 He was also being actively tormented by Ruin, which would do a number on one's mental state. I also think that in that situation, the last thing he would want to do is lose his identity as the man who did what he did to oppose Ruin in the first place. Besides, wavering between doubt and conviction isn't always good enough motivation to do something like forgetting yourself.
Vortaan he/him Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 He was also being actively tormented by Ruin, which would do a number on one's mental state. I also think that in that situation, the last thing he would want to do is lose his identity as the man who did what he did to oppose Ruin in the first place. Besides, wavering between doubt and conviction isn't always good enough motivation to do something like forgetting yourself. I'm really arguing for he didn't store or tap Identity. It could really have just been too dangerous for him. He did walk a kind of fine line between being a man who cared for his subjects and being the god that was angry at their defiance.
Galavantes Posted April 22, 2013 Posted April 22, 2013 Does anyone else really wish we could get a TLR novella? Something from his POV? He was the most interesting character in the entire Final Empire to me.
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